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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 19:37:28 GMT
He helped in the boardroom for years, then was banned due to an alleged incident with a steward who refused him entry. Probably least of the clubs issues, but was not a good personal experience for a nice guy. That the guy who was shouting and swearing at the front gate before a game at the young girl threatening her I saw that was acting like a loony. Not that occasion, I hope you phoned the police, that sounded serious a loonie threatening a young girl?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 21:32:07 GMT
At the risk of repeating myself - why doesn't Rovergrant answer the question?
The AGM hasn't been in November for at least the last 3 years!!! Who told you it was to be this November?
As a shareholder, if I receive my notice shortly that it is to be November in 2018 then we'll all know dirty tricks are still the order of the day undermining our club.
How's that playing out helping the club on and off the pitch, Prorege?
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Post by chris on Nov 4, 2018 21:53:31 GMT
That the guy who was shouting and swearing at the front gate before a game at the young girl threatening her I saw that was acting like a loony. Not that occasion, I hope you phoned the police, that sounded serious a loonie threatening a young girl? So who is your friend then
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 23:04:58 GMT
At the risk of repeating myself - why doesn't Rovergrant answer the question? The AGM hasn't been in November for at least the last 3 years!!! Who told you it was to be this November? As a shareholder, if I receive my notice shortly that it is to be November in 2018 then we'll all know dirty tricks are still the order of the day undermining our club. How's that playing out helping the club on and off the pitch, Prorege? Rovergrant can answer that question but if your suggesting that the current BoD are full of dirty tricks then that is disappointing. Something needs to be done.
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Post by Rovergrant on Nov 5, 2018 8:37:25 GMT
To satisfy `Blondie`s` paranoia, the only member of the BOD, or indeed any club official, that I have had any communication with, telephonically, electronically or other media, has been the Club Chairman and that was several months ago. With respect to the club`s AGM I did not say that `knew` that the AGM was November...I used the word `believed` and subsequently `traditionally`. The last one indeed was January 2018. As shareholder I think it is unacceptable for any AGM to be held as much as seven months after the financial period end, more particularly in these times of difficulty for the club.
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Post by Rovergrant on Nov 5, 2018 15:47:16 GMT
As has been mentioned on this thread and others ad nauseum,the fact that Craig Downes and Lindsay Hamilton `walked away` after only a short time on the BOD and their motives for doing so questioned. Others, most recently Lorraine Simpson, - appointed 28/6/2018, resigned 30/10/2018 (and previously on the BOD for 19 days in 2016) and yet not a word of mention of this participant in the `revolving door` is made, and no questions asking why.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 16:19:12 GMT
Better than that. In September's trust meeting the Chairperson assured everyone she had no intention of joining the BoD. Several weeks later......
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Post by Rovergrant on Nov 5, 2018 16:31:11 GMT
Indeed, forgot about that.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 21:27:01 GMT
So why do you think the change of heart?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 7:14:02 GMT
So why do you think the change of heart? On both Lorraine leaving and Alison joining I have simply no idea. I do not know either so cannot comment and it would be unfair of me to guess. Grant has a point regarding some ex directors taking flak and others come and go with ease. I have made my position very clear on this it is very unhealthy for a small business to have such movement in the BoD. Gone are the days of jumpers for goalposts. (Un)fortunately Business and Football form a Symbian circle. The Rovers are displaying a classic example of this. Another classic behaviour on display is the definition of insanity.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 11:24:53 GMT
I agree that some directors who come and go receive more discussion than others, where I disagree is the works flak.
The reason that Lorraine & Alison ,whom i know neither save from seeing them at games, is that they haven’t been put up on a pedastal as saviours. We’ve seen LinkedIn profiles etc by fans of previous mentioned guys. I don’t want to name them as unless their prorege or bingo (I know they’re not Grant or Rab ) they have went quietly.
What I would say is their gone, so why cry over them like wee teenage girls who just been dumped by their wee boyfriend who they thought was going to be the next Justin Bieber, only to realise there will be another boy round the corner shortly.
Why do we spend so much time looking at the people who’ve left why not look at who’s there. I get Ronnie seems to get a lot of grief but he at least acknowledges it in programme notes. What about the others , they seem to get left alone by Grant, bingo prorege & the like. What about Mr Benton why does he manage to avoid flak, he’s been on the board a while as we’ve went from one disaster to another. What does he for example offer that makes him exempt? I don’t know the answer but people on here seem to know everything but tell nothing. Does he provide funds, does he paint the place cut the grass, whatever.
Or is he left alone because he provides the leaks to the ‘sack the board’ (just not all of them) Or could it be that he may well be one of the above posters??
That could go for anyone of the board , he was the only name I could remember due to the number of changes lol
Rant over , off to bed for night shift now.
Feel free to discuss
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Post by Rovergrant on Nov 6, 2018 13:44:07 GMT
Ginty, I think Robert Watt in one of his postings did indeed question what the various Directors do, and indeed what they bring to the party.
According to the Club website the Directors are Ian Benton,(1/7/2016) Ronnie Boyd,(7/1/2014) Eddie Hagerty,(1/10/2016) Mark Hunter,(28/03/2018) Bill Shields,(28/03/2018) Colin Woodward,(4/4/2018) Gordon Lind (2/5/2018) and Alison McGowan (not listed yet on CH) - the date behind each name is the date they joined the BOD as shown on the Companies House website. Eddie Hagerty also served on the BOD back in the 1990s. Several months ago I ran a thread on a similar topic (In Out shake it all about). Apart from Ronnie Boyd whom I have known for many years I know very little of the others apart from their bios and mugshots on the the Club website. Apart from Ronnie, the only member of the BOD (that I know of)who posts on here is Eddie under `Deerboy` - and at that only very, very occasionally.
Ian Benton`s son Alan played for the club back in Paul Martin`s time as manager
Then of course, you have, according to the Club website a `Committee of Management` Ian Benton, Ronnie Boyd, Andy Fitzpatrick, Eddie Hagerty, Dianne Leslie (Commercial Manager), Lorraine Simpson (Finance Manager) Alison McGowan (Supporters’ Trust). It still lists Lorraine on this Committee and the BOD and needs updating.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 13:57:04 GMT
Too many cooks Grant?
Why the need for a business with such small turnover?
So what do these people bring to the table ?
I assume none earn any wages for this?
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Post by Rovergrant on Nov 6, 2018 14:37:11 GMT
Possibly, Ginty, but having eight Directors is not unusual for lower league football clubs - apart from Colin and Alison (I think) all are (like me) retired. From past accounts, no Directors or non playing side officials receive any wages. One thing I will not do (or indeed allow to pass unchallenged others who may say that) is say that any of those folks named above take any financial benefit from ARFC. As to what they bring to the table...you repeat Robert Watt`s question, but even in a small outfit like Vers there is a multitude of tasks that go one behind the scenes - does that warrant a place on the BOD.....arguably not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 19:31:06 GMT
What I would say is that I have seen at close quarters what Lorraine brought to the table for Albion Rover's,and without people like her at our club-she completed many tasks that were done in the interests of the club-that kept it alive on a daily basis,and were a large part of her remit.We should really engage our minds on occasion before we run certain individuals into the ground.For all the so called selfish people who have jumped in and out of club for their own gains,there are good honest people out there who have the wellbeing and interests of our club at heart-Just saying......
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