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Post by rab on Dec 27, 2018 23:47:38 GMT
In that, or any similar scenario, why wouldn't the board then invite existing shareholders and supporters to put money into the club through new shares to save it from oblivion? If existing shareholders voted down the proposal, they would be be exposed as voting for the death of the club. Agreed. Why wouldn't the board present their plan for the next 3-6 years with their vision of where we want to be and then present the investment options, of such there are many, and invite anyone to invest/support the vision. As for the existing shareholders voting down and being exposed as the cause of the death of the club!? Get real. If you currently have shares and wish for a payday sit back and relax. Watch it unfold beneath your very eyes and, this is classic, it wont be your fault you can blame it on the current board full of die hard supporters. Sweet. Stick to the point. You said the club would be no more the Monday after relegation. I suggested something that could be done in these circumstances, were the shareholders to allow it. Your arrogance and self-righteousness (and anonymity) does not inspire confidence that you have any of the answers.
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Post by rab on Dec 27, 2018 23:52:05 GMT
David, just take him at his word...he is a complete `newbie`.....why not ask the same question of all those who post under an alias,eg albion4ever, Ginty etc, etc Never take anyone on their word - let's see some real substance and maybe (or maybe not) that will be persuasive.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 1:42:48 GMT
So what is your interest in this? David Higgins You can see my interest in this over previous posts. I'll summarise it through a point a Rovers die hard once said to me, less than 2 years ago. " Coatbridge needs a Professional Football Club and people will only realise that once its gone". I bought a season ticket on the back of that amongst other things I have supported this season. I'm reading these events unfolding in front of me as a new Rovers fan, a complete outsider but with the commercial knowledge to know the current direction is oblivion. I have also made this clear in previous posts. My strength is not in football knowledge. So in the advertiser article it states the Rovers could benefit from a footballing perspective, couple of hours later Prorege states 👆 “My strength is not in football knowledge” 👀 2 posts later and he tells David Higgins we’ve joust before with a link to a previous thread where he’s telling everyone we “need a target man, a midfield general and a defender, gives opinion on Potts, then follows up in other posts sharing his football knowledge to anyone who’ll listen. Is it just me 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 2:05:55 GMT
So here’s my tuppence worth.
I’ve been as big a critic of DC as anyone ,but today’s article has made me willing to be persuaded.
The reason being that he’s finally parted with cash (not sure how much) so for that reason in my opinion, he’s finally got skin in the game. Previously he’s been underhand , sleekit etc etc, but now he’s put his moneybwhere his mouth is, so for that reason he deserves a hearing.
But ..... again only my opinion, the mask doesn’t take long to slip. He comes across, on here when he posted, on twitter, and in the couple of games where I spoke to him , as someone who wants to take credit for everything good and take the blame for nothing. Someone said to me early on the phrase Success has a thousand fathers while defeat is an orphan was coined with DC in mind, which is why I’ve always paid attention to him. The article states he left when 3rd in League 1, while this may be true it implies that it was down to him and that the club went into freefall due to him going. And I’m not buying that this was the writers work, this was spoon fed to the writer by the looks of it. Searching for this online as I’m in US I came across another article of him before the Celtic game which was an absolute cringe fest. Again it’s clear that he’s providing the hack with the copy as it’s not fact checked. It starts with How can ARFC afford a DoF but Caldwell states how can they afford not to 🤦♂️ In it he shows zero humility and comes across very egotistical. Would be good if the advertiser asked him what he contributed to the club when he was there that left a legacy.
But....again he’s put his money where his mouth is so be good to hear his plans. So I’m suggesting that we have an #ASKDAVID night on here where he takes questions and answers them. If he has grand plans I’m sure everyone on here will be glad to hear them and he may convince a few people. He liked to use this forum for his own agenda in the past so why not now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 2:16:29 GMT
David, just take him at his word...he is a complete `newbie`.....why not ask the same question of all those who post under an alias,eg albion4ever, Ginty etc, etc I love how you always bring up aliases Grant, whilst totally ignoring the fact that you use The Pastmaster On pie & Bovril. For the record in the same way that Rab is Rab, I’m Ginty have been known as Ginty since 1st year in high school in the 80’s. I’m more likely to be known as Ginty than I am by my Sunday name. I also find it cute that all the accounts people expect to be DC or one of his merry men seem to have you jumping to their defence. Is this where you get all your info 👀
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 5:05:50 GMT
Agreed. Why wouldn't the board present their plan for the next 3-6 years with their vision of where we want to be and then present the investment options, of such there are many, and invite anyone to invest/support the vision. As for the existing shareholders voting down and being exposed as the cause of the death of the club!? Get real. If you currently have shares and wish for a payday sit back and relax. Watch it unfold beneath your very eyes and, this is classic, it wont be your fault you can blame it on the current board full of die hard supporters. Sweet. Stick to the point. You said the club would be no more the Monday after relegation. I suggested something that could be done in these circumstances, were the shareholders to allow it. Your arrogance and self-righteousness (and anonymity) does not inspire confidence that you have any of the answers. Apologies Rab if I have been direct and offended you. It certainly wasnt meant. I am trying to emphasise the point that if the current shareholders wish for the clubs demise then they need do nothing. No Boardroom antics, takeovers etc. etc. just plain nothing. Your idea around new investment would work but I think time is running out. A new share issue after relegation I fear would not have the take up required to put the club back on an even keel and retain the ground (which is key) and that is assuming all the current creditors support the time required to issue and raise the funds. My view is that SPFL status needs to be secured first and this transfer window is key to securing that status. If the overall plan was to win a play off I pray it works. Its too much of a gamble in my mind when there are several things that can be done before hand albeit, again, time is of the essence.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 5:08:02 GMT
You can see my interest in this over previous posts. I'll summarise it through a point a Rovers die hard once said to me, less than 2 years ago. " Coatbridge needs a Professional Football Club and people will only realise that once its gone". I bought a season ticket on the back of that amongst other things I have supported this season. I'm reading these events unfolding in front of me as a new Rovers fan, a complete outsider but with the commercial knowledge to know the current direction is oblivion. I have also made this clear in previous posts. My strength is not in football knowledge. So in the advertiser article it states the Rovers could benefit from a footballing perspective, couple of hours later Prorege states 👆 “My strength is not in football knowledge” 👀 And the link is what Ginty?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 5:30:39 GMT
You can see my interest in this over previous posts. I'll summarise it through a point a Rovers die hard once said to me, less than 2 years ago. " Coatbridge needs a Professional Football Club and people will only realise that once its gone". I bought a season ticket on the back of that amongst other things I have supported this season. I'm reading these events unfolding in front of me as a new Rovers fan, a complete outsider but with the commercial knowledge to know the current direction is oblivion. I have also made this clear in previous posts. My strength is not in football knowledge. 2 posts later and he tells David Higgins we’ve joust before with a link to a previous thread where he’s telling everyone we “need a target man, a midfield general and a defender, gives opinion on Potts, then follows up in other posts sharing his football knowledge to anyone who’ll listen. Is it just me 🤷🏼♂️ I think its just you. I do not have footballing knowledge and there are many who have much more than me, perhaps you are one of them. I do have a football opinion though and the previous posts refer to that. I point out my lacking of footballing knowledge to make a point. If I can see what is needed, on the field, then it must be horrendous to watch for those with a better knowledge of the game. However, those were posts from a wee while ago. The jousting I was referring to is the old anonymous names. I have never been known as Prorege and I am sure quite a few on here are not known by their usernames. Indeed, the majority. However if you wish, as I have suggested quite a few times you'll find me on google very easily.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 17:37:30 GMT
I wonder, if there is a takeover, will the new board stick with and back Kevin & Joe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 21:03:33 GMT
Bucky , I do recall the decal/newrover gate Bucky , though don’t remember any post saying account was hacked, I’m a long time lurker but only posted last 6 months as I was afraid I’d spend too much time on here once I’d started, which has proven to be the case. It’s like fortnite for adults. I’d be surprised if details of anyone’s IP address were released unless in the case of criminality. Was this the case?
Sorry not Yoda but he must be a very good writer to draw comparisons to the Gint lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 22:04:19 GMT
Nice side swerve Ginty or you avoiding the name announcement because yours begins with David and ends in well.... 😉
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Post by d7 on Dec 28, 2018 23:06:00 GMT
I usually steer well clear of this boardroom stuff but I did find Bucky's post very funny!
Feeling the need to post under 2 separate account names should be pitied and it does make you wonder just what goes on in someone's head when they act like that.
Got to admit I've no idea why anyone would invest money in a basket case like the Rovers. No chance of a return on any investment - might as well set fire to your fivers. I'd buy a few shares just so I could be a Rovers shareholder cos I've got a soft spot for the club, but that is it. So, what is the return/reward/point in anyone sinking cash into the club? What would someone like DC get from that? Both of him, lol!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 9:01:53 GMT
Nice side swerve Ginty or you avoiding the name announcement because yours begins with David and ends in well.... 😉 It actually does 🤣🤣 From one David to another 😘
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Post by Rovergrant on Dec 29, 2018 9:32:37 GMT
I'd buy a few shares just so I could be a Rovers shareholder cos I've got a soft spot for the club, but that is it. Robert Watt gave supporters the opportunity to acquire a few of his shares - provided the Directors contributed a similar number on a one to one basis. As I understand it no one came forward and asked for any shares. I have only a small number of shares but being a shareholder gives you access to the annual accounts and the AGM
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Post by Rovergrant on Dec 29, 2018 9:38:43 GMT
Don't know if you caught this previously on the messageboard but Caldwell got caught red handed (posting under the same IP address) as dcaldwell and newrover So if that was the case who `outed` him.......if it was the Admin then there was a clear breach of the privacy laws - even those in existence before GDPR - which could have seen Admin reported to the Information Commissioner. No rules against anyone posting under two names...not exactly the crime of the century is it on what is in reality a very obscure message board with only a few hundred members the vast majority of whom rarely visit and even fewer post.
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