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Post by Rover n out on Mar 3, 2019 11:19:30 GMT
Berwick have only been saved by our sheer incompetence or they'd be doomed. Most of their fans realise this, especially judging by the reactions of their support yesterday as the teams and management went off at half time. A lot of heated exchanges between them and their manager.
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Post by charlestheoptimist on Mar 3, 2019 11:30:36 GMT
Well the fixed odds coupon was busted in the last 5 minutes ! It would be a fair bet to state that any Rovers team in the past 100 years at Cliftonhill would have taken 6 or 7 off Berwick yesterday , but not the vintage 2019 squad. We had plenty of spirit but severe lacking in composure and being streetwise to see out a game. We are not being hammered 6 or 7 nil like the poundings East Stirling were taken towards their end , but spirit and hard work is not enough to tackle what we will be facing at the end of May ( not the PM by the way !). I can only start to sing -' Promised you a miracle 'may be heard quite often in the coming weeks.
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Post by tommysermanni on Mar 3, 2019 11:40:02 GMT
Only the late great Robin Marwick could have told you if there has been a Rovers team as bad as this.
I seriously doubt it. No Rovers team I have seen have gone 20 games without a win. Not too late to sign the St Ambrose 1st X1 and play them all until the end of the season.
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Post by k70 on Mar 3, 2019 21:27:25 GMT
Tommy - having read through all your posts from the past 24 hours or so I'm genuinely worried about you. Do you have immediate access to a kitchen knife by any chance??? 🤐
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 21:30:49 GMT
Spot on k70's. Just for once prof, button the bevvy talk. Hopefully most of us have other things in life that give perspective to this sorry mess.
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Post by Prof on Mar 3, 2019 21:51:14 GMT
Not bevvy talk at all Jimbo. Just sick fed up of all this total negativity. Surely we should all be getting behind the guys. We know we're facing a 2 game play-off and now is the time to get behind the guys!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 22:05:25 GMT
Maybe but your comment was crass.
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Post by paulrovers on Mar 3, 2019 22:08:28 GMT
Tommy - having read through all your posts from the past 24 hours or so I'm genuinely worried about you. Do you have immediate access to a kitchen knife by any chance??? There’s a big thing in football and the wider community to promote its good to talk etc and that last comment from you leaves a bad taste.
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Post by Prof on Mar 3, 2019 22:16:46 GMT
Taken down the post because I can't be bothered with all the usual snidy responses. The attitude of a good few folk on here still bugs me intensely though.
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Post by tommysermanni on Mar 3, 2019 22:17:12 GMT
To be honest Prof I'm quite accepting of our current position.
I stated 4 months ago where we would finish and I have never swayed from that.
I think a team who have amassed 1 victory all season deserve their play off dance with relegation.
Whilst this saddens me it's path we have been following for the last 2 years.
I take your point about getting behind the players Prof but can you tell me in all honestly that the players representing ARFC this season have given their all for the Club and their fans ?.
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Post by shakey on Mar 4, 2019 13:26:40 GMT
We are not being hammered 6 or 7 nil like the poundings East Stirling were taken towards their end ......... The East Stirlingshire side that dropped into the Lowland League accumulated 32 points that season - a world away from our likely total....
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Post by tommysermanni on Mar 4, 2019 13:41:08 GMT
Pretty sure when Cowdenbeath finished bottom it was with about 22 points.
I think when our bottom spot is confirmed we will pick up a win against a mid table team with no chance of reaching the play offs.
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Post by Rovergrant on Mar 4, 2019 14:04:05 GMT
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Post by Rovergrant on Mar 4, 2019 18:00:19 GMT
Charles, looked into this (yes I know I`m a bit of a saddo)
At no time did ESFC lose by 6 or 7 as you stated in fact they were much more competitive than ARFC. Like Rovers, their biggest loss was 5 goals conceded on two occasions.
Considering the BOD's mantra about the Supporters's Trust and Community Trust being the club's future, the most damning statistic is the fact that ESFC had average home gates from Jan 2016 of 325, against the ARFC average figure of about 200, or possibly less, so far in 2019. That is despite ESFC playing home fixtures at Stenny's Ochilview Stadium. A disgraceful indictment of Coatbridge in general and Rovers support in particular.
The current figures for ARFC are for the 27 games played i.e. 3/4ths of the league fixtures. On that basis I have projected the last quarter in brackets, allowing for a bit of poetic licence re an extra home win.
No matter which way you look at it , doesn't make good reading.
ARFC 18/19 ESFC15/16 Goals For 18 (24) 41 Goals Against 62 (93) 79
Wins Home 1 (2) 6
Wins Away 0 (0) 3
Draws Home 2 (3) 1
Draws Away 3 (4) 4
Total Points 8 (13) 32
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Post by charlestheoptimist on Mar 4, 2019 20:14:32 GMT
I was looking at an accumulation of years from 2011 towards the end of their league life in 2015. When they were consistently either bottom or in bottom three and had some really horrendous defeats , 9.1 against Stirling , 7-1 v Clyde , 6-0 v Peterhead , 6-0 v Stranraer spring to mind. We are not expereincing these type of defeats. But their last year was more rewarding. I do not believe that in the modern era since 1975 reorganisation of the leagues ( Forfar in 1974/75 had a low record of 9 points under 2 points for win era in the old Second Division) has any team gone below 10 points in the bottom league - lets not have that record.
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