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Post by harriskid44 on Jan 8, 2018 23:14:42 GMT
And also the people that pay every month for the players fun has a say, we pay money for players, this is like a shares, so we have a say as well.
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Post by stewmelrover on Jan 9, 2018 11:55:17 GMT
Still no denials from those reputed to be involved? Not in the least bit impressive from people well-known to all at Cliftonhill. If it's all just rumours, then say so; if not, state your case-whatever it is- in public.
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Post by Nanook on Jan 9, 2018 18:00:50 GMT
MildRover have PM'd you.
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Post by Nanook on Jan 9, 2018 22:35:02 GMT
Interesting times for Rovers on the pitch, might be losing/drawing matches that we really ought to be winning but in the games I have seen, it is, usually, a good watch, some great prospects. Enjoying being a Rovers supporter, not always been able to say that.
So, for there to be boardroom shenanigans is so disappointing.
Rovers were in a tricky position financially, due to over ambition of previous boards, plenty of clubs have been caught out this way. Shareholders were asked for donations/loans, then luck of the draw, Rovers drew Celtic in the Cup. This kept the club afloat but cuts had to be made and were . Management and some players walked, as budgets/wages were cut. The club is heading in the correct direction in terms of living within means and showing steady financial improvement, the overdraft has been reduced to low 5 figures from 6 figures in the past..
The club is trying to be a community club as never before. There are various groups; Football Memories, Fitness, Volunteer, Trust, and others that I am only vaguely aware of, being engaged.
The club is willing to try different options. There have been various things like Christmas Sales, half season tickets etc.
With the club, heading in the right direction, quite why this is the time for board room change is beyond me.
(To stop any conspiracy theories, yes I grew up with Ronnie, I regard him as a friend but I do not think that has coloured my take on the plot.)
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Post by rab on Jan 9, 2018 23:08:48 GMT
Quite right. The club was living beyond its means and would have gone into administration but for the luck of drawing Celtic in the cup last season. The club is now being run far better financially and any attempt to oust the current Chairman would reflect very badly on the perpetrators (or maybe perpe-traitors). I hope nothing like that happens - if it does, the supporters may never forgive them.
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Post by stewmelrover on Jan 10, 2018 5:04:17 GMT
Correct: anyone who tries this will not be forgiven. Perhaps some people think the Cliftonhill faithful don't matter. We shall see...
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Post by stewmelrover on Jan 10, 2018 5:54:45 GMT
What I don't get is the motivation behind any attempted interference: why would the people concerned wish to take over at Cliftonhill?
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Post by Nanook on Jan 10, 2018 22:08:11 GMT
Anton Fagan is a major shareholder, not a majority shareholder as I have read elsewhere, son of former Chairman Tom Fagan. He voted at a recent AGM against widening the shareholder base by voting down a move to issue more, new shares. Motivation? If you are a major shareholder, do you want your shareholding to stay at its current high percentage level or have your percentage level diminished by an increase in shares?
If Rovers go bust, the main asset, Cliftonhill, and other assets would be sold, and the money shared out. The more shares you have, the bigger share of cash you get.
Why now? Why not, it is good to let the natives know where the power lies from time to time.
I do not understand why any Rovers supporter would want to replace the current Chairman/board members when financially, for the first time in many seasons, finances are heading in the right direction. I am a small share holder and a Rovers supporter, the plotters are shareholders, are they Rovers supporters?
Anton is employed by the SPFL. I do wonder what the rules say? Is there a conflict of interest for an administrator of scottish football being involved in a negative way in the administration of a member club?
Frank Meade is listed as Chief Executive of Dumbarton FC, although I thought he had left that position. I wonder what the rules are about an employee of one member club interfering in the workings of another member club. Perhaps, he should ask the SPFL about the rules on this? He could ask Anton.
I admired Frank's involvement in the Rovers but given the history of the Rovers under Tom Fagan I just do not understand Frank's involvement.
George Peat's record in club admin is second to none, just ask any Airdrieonians supporter. As a figure head, he is damaged goods.
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Post by d7 on Jan 10, 2018 23:07:33 GMT
What I don't get is the motivation behind any attempted interference: why would the people concerned wish to take over at Cliftonhill? i think its an ego thing as much as anything. Like Rovers having a Director of Football for the love of god! Who even thinks that's acceptable or normal? I reckon there's more than a hint of that around all of this. Having a high falutin' job title on their twitter or facebook page. It's to be pitied really. Plus as nanook says ........ money!
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Post by stewmelrover on Jan 11, 2018 6:34:46 GMT
If Frank Meade is in any way involved in a Fagan-backed 'takeover' he should seriously think again...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 8:26:47 GMT
If any of this is true then it's good to know who they allegedly are. Fagan, plenty of history there. Peat, oh dear! Frank Meade, beyond belief.
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Post by ped on Jan 11, 2018 8:46:27 GMT
I’ve not been an active supporter of the club for too long (4 seasons) so don’t know too much about the recent history, just need to take direction from the long serving fans as to who the bad guys are. I know one thing though, Ronnie is definitely one of the good guys. It’s people like him that have made it easy for me to renew my season ticket each year after years of supporting one of the “big two”.
I’m guessing from the reaction on here that it all seems plausible even though it’s “just” a rumour.
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Post by stewmelrover on Jan 11, 2018 9:26:51 GMT
More than plausible: this will be the third major assault on Cliftohill since the early 1990s, both of which were shoddy and blatant attempts to sell Cliftonhill. Can't wait to see what this lot are going to try.
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Post by stewmelrover on Jan 11, 2018 10:04:13 GMT
History of Third Lanark: gross manipulation of shares and shareholders resulted in one person (W.Hiddlestone esq.) having absolute power at Cathkin in the late 1950s. The rest, as they say, is history. Sound familiar?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 10:28:58 GMT
Isn't there league rules regarding people taking over clubs being fit for purpose or something similar?
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