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Post by jaydee on Feb 27, 2019 17:50:38 GMT
You criticise where Bucky may have got his information, rather than considering whether or not the information is correct. Is the information true? If it is, then Mr Hamilton's judgement is not to be trusted either. . Lindsay Hamilton did not appoint John Brogan on his own as has been alleged on this message board as there is no way that the rest of the Board, or the Chairman at that time, would have allowed him or any other individual director to do this as part of what should have been an overall Board decision. The person who did appoint John Brogan on his own was the Chairman at that time without consulting with the rest of the Board or bringing it to them for a collective decision. I would suggest that as with most contentious stories, there are AT LEAST 3 sides to this one.... theirs, yours and somewhere in the middle something near the truth? If there was a 4 man committee then I would imagine 3 of them would be required to agree on the chosen candidate. Now who was pushing hardest for that candidate and who was convinced by that persons arguments are things that only the 4 men will really know.
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Post by Rovergrant on Feb 27, 2019 17:55:36 GMT
The thing is Jaydee, the recommendations of the committee did NOT go back to the full BOD for ratification, as had been agreed. Not saying the outcome would have been any different.
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Post by jaydee on Feb 27, 2019 17:57:09 GMT
But you ARE stating that 1 man made the decision to appoint JB. That is where I disagree.
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Post by Rovergrant on Feb 27, 2019 18:01:54 GMT
But not the individual who has been unfairly pilloried for it.
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Post by jaydee on Feb 27, 2019 19:59:19 GMT
No, but another individual who you’re unfairly pillorying for it.
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Post by Rovergrant on Feb 27, 2019 20:17:36 GMT
Unfair.....hmmm?? Don`t you think that you, as an employee of the club should be commenting on this
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Post by jaydee on Feb 27, 2019 20:32:24 GMT
Unfair.....hmmm?? Don`t you think that you, as an employee of the club should be commenting on this m I tell you what then, this will be my last comment on it as it appears as an employee I’m only allowed to comment as long as I don’t disagree with certain individuals. Yes unfair, if you believe that singling out LH is being unfair when he was part of the 4 man committee then to single out another member of the 4 man committee is equally unfair. The 4 man committee came to a majority decision, no 1 man went against the other 3, it just didn’t and wouldn’t happen.
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Post by Rovergrant on Feb 27, 2019 20:35:18 GMT
Up until I retired I was employing a number of folks across two companies...if any of them had been discussing company business on social media - particularly with respect to Board or personnel issues...they would have been given as they say `words of advice`
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Post by paulrovers on Feb 27, 2019 20:35:44 GMT
Unfair.....hmmm?? Don`t you think that you, as an employee of the club should be commenting on this m I tell you what then, this will be my last comment on it as it appears as an employee I’m only allowed to comment as long as I don’t disagree with certain individuals. Yes unfair, if you believe that singling out LH is being unfair when he was part of the 4 man committee then to single out another member of the 4 man committee is equally unfair. The 4 man committee came to a majority decision, no 1 man went against the other 3, it just didn’t and wouldn’t happen. Sorry to jump in here, do you know that for a fact? If that’s the case, then why haven’t you jumped in to enlighten everyone when everyone was saying that it was LH’s decision to appoint brogan? Why is it that it’s The chairman at the time who is being called out, that you only now decide to speak up?
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Post by Nanook on Feb 27, 2019 22:28:45 GMT
The story as I heard it was that the BOD set up a 4 person committee to make the manager decision. After interviews, the committee voted 2-2, the Chair of the committee used a casting vote to choose the manager. The Chair of the committee with the casting vote is no longer on the BOD.
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Post by jaydee on Feb 28, 2019 7:52:41 GMT
Up until I retired I was employing a number of folks across two companies...if any of them had been discussing company business on social media - particularly with respect to Board or personnel issues...they would have been given as they say `words of advice` Probably just as well for both of us I didn’t work for either of those companies then. I tell you what then, this will be my last comment on it as it appears as an employee I’m only allowed to comment as long as I don’t disagree with certain individuals. Yes unfair, if you believe that singling out LH is being unfair when he was part of the 4 man committee then to single out another member of the 4 man committee is equally unfair. The 4 man committee came to a majority decision, no 1 man went against the other 3, it just didn’t and wouldn’t happen. Sorry to jump in here, do you know that for a fact? If that’s the case, then why haven’t you jumped in to enlighten everyone when everyone was saying that it was LH’s decision to appoint brogan? Why is it that it’s The chairman at the time who is being called out, that you only now decide to speak up? I’ll be completely honest Paul, I haven’t seen everyone saying it was LH’s decision, but I have seen Grant saying with some ‘fauxthority’ that it was the former chairman’s decision alone. So that’s why I decided to speak up. Hope that clears that up for you.
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Post by paulrovers on Feb 28, 2019 8:06:35 GMT
Up until I retired I was employing a number of folks across two companies...if any of them had been discussing company business on social media - particularly with respect to Board or personnel issues...they would have been given as they say `words of advice` Probably just as well for both of us I didn’t work for either of those companies then. Sorry to jump in here, do you know that for a fact? If that’s the case, then why haven’t you jumped in to enlighten everyone when everyone was saying that it was LH’s decision to appoint brogan? Why is it that it’s The chairman at the time who is being called out, that you only now decide to speak up? I’ll be completely honest Paul, I haven’t seen everyone saying it was LH’s decision, but I have seen Grant saying with some ‘fauxthority’ that it was the former chairman’s decision alone. So that’s why I decided to speak up. Hope that clears that up for you. So do you have it on good authority that it wasn’t the chairman at the times decision?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 8:18:56 GMT
Not to take sides on this but Jaydee appears to be trying to clear the situation up. I suppose you then have to make up your own mind on who to believe. Have to ask though that in trying to do so he is then told he shouldn't be talking about this. The question would then be is it because he shouldn't be talking about this or is it because it doesn't tally with another opinion? The truth is out there! Somewhere!
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Post by Rovergrant on Feb 28, 2019 8:38:48 GMT
The story as I heard it was that the BOD set up a 4 person committee to make the manager decision. After interviews, the committee voted 2-2, the Chair of the committee used a casting vote to choose the manager. The Chair of the committee with the casting vote is no longer on the BOD. There was not any Chairman of the 4 man committee as the purpose of the committee was to only look at filtering out the potential candidates for interview and then to report back to the full Board to decide which candidates should be approached for interview. This did not happen and the Football club Chairman on his OWN decided to appoint John Brogan as manager not anyone else.
We wouldn`t even be having this conversation if Bucky hadn`t made the Hamilton comment. Who was his source ? He certainly would not make it up. Hamilton is a convenient scapegoat. Anyway I`ll let the good folks who look in on this board make up their own minds.
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Post by jaydee on Feb 28, 2019 8:56:05 GMT
Probably just as well for both of us I didn’t work for either of those companies then. I’ll be completely honest Paul, I haven’t seen everyone saying it was LH’s decision, but I have seen Grant saying with some ‘fauxthority’ that it was the former chairman’s decision alone. So that’s why I decided to speak up. Hope that clears that up for you. So do you have it on good authority that it wasn’t the chairman at the times decision? Wasn’t his decision alone? Yes I do.
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