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Post by andrewrovers on Jun 8, 2016 14:51:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 18:41:47 GMT
Looks a bit of a shambles to me, this does not look well thought out ,I mean part time players away to teams in Wales in Ireland ? Might be wrong but who covers the travelling and can the boys get time of work ? Maybe it will all come out in the wash ,
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Post by bucky on Jun 8, 2016 21:44:43 GMT
Like the changes to the League cup it's another uncalled for change to a format that worked reasonably well. Challenge cup is great chance for clubs out with the SPL to get a wee bit silverware
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Post by chris on Jun 9, 2016 5:27:58 GMT
I'm sure I read fixtures take place on international weekends, it's an absolute riot
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Post by arfcdm on Jun 9, 2016 9:36:37 GMT
The creme de la creme of ridiculous ideas.
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Post by teekasule on Jun 9, 2016 9:50:28 GMT
Like the changes to the League cup it's another uncalled for change to a format that worked reasonably well. Challenge cup is great chance for clubs out with the SPL to get a wee bit silverware League cup changes are great imo. Will see how this goes. Certainly would be interesting having an away trip to Wales ! Would there be a loo on the bus ? A snapshot of the new format for the 2016/17 Scottish Challenge Cup is as follows: Round 1 (August): 28 teams: 12 x Ladbrokes Premiership u20 teams, 8 x Ladbrokes League 2 teams, 4 x Highland League teams, 4 x Lowland League teams Round 2 (August): 24 teams: 14 x Round 1 winners, remaining 2 x Ladbrokes League 2 teams, 8 x Ladbrokes League 1 teams Round 3 (September): 24 teams: 12 x Round 2 winners, 10 x Ladbrokes Championship teams, remaining 2 x Ladbrokes League 1 teams Round 4 (October): 16 teams: 12 x Round 3 winners, 2 x Northern Ireland Football League teams, 2 x Welsh Premier League teams Quarter-finals (November): 8 x winners from Round 4 Semi-finals (February): 4 x winners from Quarter-finals Final (March): 2 x winners from Semi-finals |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 15:45:47 GMT
Like the changes to the League cup it's another uncalled for change to a format that worked reasonably well. Challenge cup is great chance for clubs out with the SPL to get a wee bit silverware according to the SPFL, all Clubs taking part in the Challenge Cup have stated that it was a money losing exercise, so change was requested, it seems that out of the last 10 finals, only two afforded the winning Club a profit on the competition..was that a good enough reason to try radical change?? |
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Post by bucky on Jun 9, 2016 18:41:49 GMT
Like the changes to the League cup it's another uncalled for change to a format that worked reasonably well. Challenge cup is great chance for clubs out with the SPL to get a wee bit silverware according to the SPFL, all Clubs taking part in the Challenge Cup have stated that it was a money losing exercise, so change was requested, it seems that out of the last 10 finals, only two afforded the winning Club a profit on the competition..was that a good enough reason to try radical change?? And crowds will flock to watch U20's because.................. |
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Post by Prof on Jun 9, 2016 20:40:45 GMT
Interesting new format to say the least. I think it's right that the SPFL are trying new ideas to increase interest in the two cup competitions.
Like Tee says, let's see how it works out this season - change isn't always a bad thing.
Agree Tee - a Millers Coach to Wales would be some away day - would have to be a toilet coach indeed! Travelled to North Wales by coach a couple of weeks ago and that took us about 8 hours with breaks!!
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Post by bucky on Jun 10, 2016 10:37:58 GMT
Interesting new format to say the least. I think it's right that the SPFL are trying new ideas to increase interest in the two cup competitions. Like Tee says, let's see how it works out this season - change isn't always a bad thing. Agree Tee - a Millers Coach to Wales would be some away day - would have to be a toilet coach indeed! Travelled to North Wales by coach a couple of weeks ago and that took us about 8 hours with breaks!! Sorry but this change is neither interesting or radical because it's all been tried and failed before. This is a revamp of the Texaco cup which was later changed in the mid 70's to the Anglo Scottish cup which was eventually abandoned in the early 80's due to lack of interest from both clubs and fans. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 16:35:03 GMT
Interesting new format to say the least. I think it's right that the SPFL are trying new ideas to increase interest in the two cup competitions. Like Tee says, let's see how it works out this season - change isn't always a bad thing. Agree Tee - a Millers Coach to Wales would be some away day - would have to be a toilet coach indeed! Travelled to North Wales by coach a couple of weeks ago and that took us about 8 hours with breaks!! Sorry but this change is neither interesting or radical because it's all been tried and failed before. This is a revamp of the Texaco cup which was later changed in the mid 70's to the Anglo Scottish cup which was eventually abandoned in the early 80's due to lack of interest from both clubs and fans. and more of the same would help how?...... knocking change without proposing an alternative is easy..we all want to see an improvement...so any ideas or suggestions..because what we have now..aint working ! |
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Post by andrewrovers on Jun 10, 2016 17:58:24 GMT
it doesn't matter what changes they make to this competition, it will still have the same ending, a final at a stadium that has a capacity of around 10,000 and only about 3,000 turn up for it irregardless of whos in the final
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Post by bucky on Jun 10, 2016 19:09:39 GMT
Sorry but this change is neither interesting or radical because it's all been tried and failed before. This is a revamp of the Texaco cup which was later changed in the mid 70's to the Anglo Scottish cup which was eventually abandoned in the early 80's due to lack of interest from both clubs and fans. and more of the same would help how?...... knocking change without proposing an alternative is easy..we all want to see an improvement...so any ideas or suggestions..because what we have now..aint working ! The Challenge cup has had 9 different winners in the last 9 years, normally a club who might not have had the best of league seasons, clubs like Stranraer and Stenhousemuir have won it- clubs who don't normally see any silverware. It's a chance for the fans ( remember them Charlie) who don't normally get excited until their team got to the Quarters. What was wrong with that. If it was to change then it should be expanded to Lowland and Highland League who have aspirations of playing in the senior leagues. I will ask you a second time Charlie, what would a fixture like Hamilton Accies U20's v Colleraine add to this competition |
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Post by arfcdm on Jun 10, 2016 20:30:04 GMT
If as Charlie says this competition is a money losing exercise is true then I guess change of some description is probably due.
For me one of the issues is we play the same teams too many times and the thought of playing the same teams again in the challenge cup offers no incentive to make real effort to go along. However like Bucky says Hamilton u20s or Colleraine offers no more incentive.
If the club does decent and has an away trip to Wales or Ireland, would this not be financially a killer?
In all honesty, if the challenge cup is costing money to play in, then I'd be more inclined to ask why not just scrap it? Is it that big a deal?
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Post by k70 on Jun 10, 2016 20:40:58 GMT
Dire competition which should be scrapped.
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