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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 15:29:49 GMT
Hi, bit of a long shot but I'm doing a bit of research on Archie Montgomery who played for Rangers, Man Utd and Bury and was Rovers first ever manager till his death in 1922. I've gathered a good but of info on him but I'm struggling to find where he is buried. Is there anyone who I could contact who is an expert on the clubs history? Cheers en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Montgomery
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Post by Rovergrant on Aug 20, 2019 17:57:42 GMT
One for Nanook, methinks ?
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Post by Rovergrant on Aug 20, 2019 18:18:12 GMT
Just in case any are wondering why it was not until 1920 before Rovers got a `manager`. In the 1800s and in the pre-war years this role was filled in many clubs by the secretary - if my memory serves me correctly one of Rovers longest serving secretaries was a gentleman called Simon Scott - again maybe Nanook can confirm
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Post by rab on Aug 20, 2019 18:36:46 GMT
There are a couple of mentions of him in 'The Boys From the 'Brig' - the club history by Robin Marwick published in 1987.
The book says he was appointed 'as Secretary/Manager' on 25 June 1920. He died on either 4 or 5 January 1922 (the text suggests 4 Jan, but a list of managers at the back of the book says the 5th), so he was at the helm for a season and a half.
The day after a match against Morton on 3/1/22, it says: 'The death was announced....of Manager, Archie Montgomery, after a short illness. His short spell in charge had not been blessed with success but all the Club were saddened by the news'. No details of any funeral or burial.
Quite why the author concludes that Montgomery was not a success is baffling - in 1920-21 Rovers finished 18th in the top flight (comfortably ahead of the relegation places) and got to the Scottish Cup semi-final.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 22:39:28 GMT
Thanks. He played in goals 3 times for Man Utd and 10 for Rangers before playing and managing Bury.
He was a miner and lived in the Chryston/Moodiesburn area
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Post by Nanook on Aug 20, 2019 23:03:30 GMT
Rab has quoted the book as it stands, and right to question Robin's opinion.
Below from Motherwell Times, Friday, 13 January, 1922 (Had to alter some of the punctuation, and some of the spelling, otherwise as was.) WELL KNOWN FOOTBALL OFFICIAL’S DEATH. Albion Rovers' Loss. We regret to announce the death of Mr Archie Montgomery, which event came suddenly last Wednesday, and came as a deep shock to many who had known and respected the first manager of the Albion Rovers F.C. Limited. Some months ago he was laid aside with pleurisy, and apparently that had some tendency create a respiratory weakness. Following that he contracted a chill as the result of travelling to and from Dumfries, and, unfortunately, that developed to pneumonia, with the fatal result that he passed hence shortly after mid-day on Wednesday, leaving behind sorrowing wife and only son. The internment took place on Saturday afternoon at Bedlay, and was largely attended, as the deceased was well known and highly respected in a large football centre. Only 43 years of age, he had passed over the whole gamut of the winter game. He started play with the Chryston Athletic in the early days of the Scottish Junior Association, and kept goal for them against Ireland and England, as represented the Birmingham and District Counties Association. After term with the Glasgow Rangers, he proceeded to Bury, where he finished his playing career and then became secretary manager. During his association with the Lancashire club, Bury twice won the English Cup. They beat Southampton in the 1900 final, and the Derby County in 1903—both on the Crystal Palace ground. He retired then, but when Albion Rovers, now in the First Division of the Scottish League—wanted a manager, he was given the job out of a large number of applicants, and held that appointment for a couple of seasons. A hail-fellow-well-met and a most enthusiastic Freemason, he had a host of friends.
Grant, Simon Scott a founder member when club was set up. Player, committee member, match secretary and director. Often referred to as Sime, his brothers John, Adam and Willie also played with the Rovers. Simon played in emergency at age 47. (Page 52-53, Robin's book)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 6:11:44 GMT
Thanks very much. I couldn’t find a record of him buried at Bedley but I’ll try again. That is the logical location
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Post by charlestheoptimist on Aug 21, 2019 20:41:30 GMT
Some great historical research and it is ironic to note of his connection with Bury FC, who are less than 134 hours away from possible expulsion from the league and their rich contribution to the game over their history - potential sad loss - hope something positive happens before Friday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 12:31:59 GMT
Found Archie in Bedley Cemetery Moodiesburn (Section W, Lair 52). Buried in plot with his wife and son. Thanks for all your help guys.
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Post by Rovergrant on Aug 22, 2019 13:27:33 GMT
Well done and well done to Nanook (Brian) for pointing you in the right direction
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