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Post by jaydee on Nov 19, 2020 6:53:15 GMT
Not as many in contact as you’d think 👍🏼 On the park doesn’t count. How many are unavailable then ? The positive cases plus anyone that shared a car with a positive case.
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Post by paulrovers on Nov 21, 2020 11:32:55 GMT
How many are unavailable then ? The positive cases plus anyone that shared a car with a positive case. Why are any of the players car sharing? Isn’t that part of the guidelines that no car sharing is allowed?
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Nov 21, 2020 11:34:43 GMT
Buses are frowned on and not everyone can drive or has a car so sharing is essential.
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Post by paulrovers on Nov 21, 2020 11:38:10 GMT
Car sharing isn’t essential... there are more people with cars now than say 20/30years ago. I’m sure someone in the family of the players will have a car, which should then be utilised to get them to and from games. It’s the same as grass root football, no car sharing allowed, parents have to drop off and pick up once game is complete...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 12:19:14 GMT
The positive cases plus anyone that shared a car with a positive case. Why are any of the players car sharing? Isn’t that part of the guidelines that no car sharing is allowed? Car sharing is allowed however if possible was to be avoided. This was the same guidance for everyone not just players. Where it becomes unrealistic is asking individuals to travel long distances alone as the costs become far to much. There was always a likelihood of a outbreak at any of the part time teams as they clearly mingle with a much wider circle of people than full time teams operating in a bubble. Hope all those affected make a full and speedy recovery with no long term issues.
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Post by paulrovers on Nov 21, 2020 12:27:55 GMT
Why are any of the players car sharing? Isn’t that part of the guidelines that no car sharing is allowed? Car sharing is allowed however if possible was to be avoided. This was the same guidance for everyone not just players. Where it becomes unrealistic is asking individuals to travel long distances alone as the costs become far to much. There was always a likelihood of a outbreak at any of the part time teams as they clearly mingle with a much wider circle of people than full time teams operating in a bubble. Hope all those affected make a full and speedy recovery with no long term issues. The rules clearly state car sharing is to be avoided out with your extended household. I understand costs etc will mount up but this is something that players and their family would have had to combat throughout their career from grassroots to senior football. Surely, common sense would prevail and for this period of time no car sharing would be done done to ensure the safety of everyone? As you said, let’s hope a speedy recovery for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 12:50:44 GMT
Car sharing is allowed however if possible was to be avoided. This was the same guidance for everyone not just players. Where it becomes unrealistic is asking individuals to travel long distances alone as the costs become far to much. There was always a likelihood of a outbreak at any of the part time teams as they clearly mingle with a much wider circle of people than full time teams operating in a bubble. Hope all those affected make a full and speedy recovery with no long term issues. The rules clearly state car sharing is to be avoided out with your extended household. I understand costs etc will mount up but this is something that players and their family would have had to combat throughout their career from grassroots to senior football. Surely, common sense would prevail and for this period of time no car sharing would be done done to ensure the safety of everyone? As you said, let’s hope a speedy recovery for everyone. The rules may have changed with tier 4 however I do know that car sharing was to be avoided under the guidance but not mandatory. This meant it could be done and for many people it was unavoidable to maintain employment, football players being no different. If we have got to the point where players are unable to travel together in a car we have surely reached the point where it is unsafe to continue games as changing facilities would be required to be provided for individual changing. The bottom line is the cost of players travelling independently and separately far outweighs how much they are paid. Is it fair to ask people to be out of pocket to fulfil fixtures, especially given many may be facing financial difficulties with their jobs.
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Post by paulrovers on Nov 21, 2020 13:11:39 GMT
The rules clearly state car sharing is to be avoided out with your extended household. I understand costs etc will mount up but this is something that players and their family would have had to combat throughout their career from grassroots to senior football. Surely, common sense would prevail and for this period of time no car sharing would be done done to ensure the safety of everyone? As you said, let’s hope a speedy recovery for everyone. The rules may have changed with tier 4 however I do know that car sharing was to be avoided under the guidance but not mandatory. This meant it could be done and for many people it was unavoidable to maintain employment, football players being no different. If we have got to the point where players are unable to travel together in a car we have surely reached the point where it is unsafe to continue games as changing facilities would be required to be provided for individual changing. The bottom line is the cost of players travelling independently and separately far outweighs how much they are paid. Is it fair to ask people to be out of pocket to fulfil fixtures, especially given many may be facing financial difficulties with their jobs. Of course it will, but then it comes down to cutting your cloth to suit. If you can’t afford to travel to and from games on your own to ensure safety of everyone then you don’t do it. This is just my opinion though.
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Post by jaydee on Nov 21, 2020 13:16:40 GMT
Worth noting that of the 3 people who shared cars with the positive cases 0 have tested positive afterwards.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 13:22:13 GMT
The rules may have changed with tier 4 however I do know that car sharing was to be avoided under the guidance but not mandatory. This meant it could be done and for many people it was unavoidable to maintain employment, football players being no different. If we have got to the point where players are unable to travel together in a car we have surely reached the point where it is unsafe to continue games as changing facilities would be required to be provided for individual changing. The bottom line is the cost of players travelling independently and separately far outweighs how much they are paid. Is it fair to ask people to be out of pocket to fulfil fixtures, especially given many may be facing financial difficulties with their jobs. Of course it will, but then it comes down to cutting your cloth to suit. If you can’t afford to travel to and from games on your own to ensure safety of everyone then you don’t do it. This is just my opinion though. Has travelling together been identified as the cause of the outbreak?
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Post by jaydee on Nov 21, 2020 13:23:26 GMT
Of course it will, but then it comes down to cutting your cloth to suit. If you can’t afford to travel to and from games on your own to ensure safety of everyone then you don’t do it. This is just my opinion though. Has travelling together been identified as the cause of the outbreak? Worth noting that of the 3 people who shared cars with the positive cases 0 have tested positive afterwards. No.
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Post by paulrovers on Nov 21, 2020 13:26:19 GMT
Of course it will, but then it comes down to cutting your cloth to suit. If you can’t afford to travel to and from games on your own to ensure safety of everyone then you don’t do it. This is just my opinion though. Has travelling together been identified as the cause of the outbreak? I wouldn’t know that but I think we should be taking more precautions and not be doing any car sharing at all, again if players can’t afford to do it or unwilling to do so, then unfortunately they miss out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 13:34:55 GMT
Worth noting that of the 3 people who shared cars with the positive cases 0 have tested positive afterwards. Exactly and confirms there is clearly a large element of chance involved in whether you catch it. If car sharing is banned then there will be a far worse repercussions for the country than football matches being postponed
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Post by albion4ever2 on Nov 21, 2020 17:19:30 GMT
Has travelling together been identified as the cause of the outbreak? I wouldn’t know that but I think we should be taking more precautions and not be doing any car sharing at all, again if players can’t afford to do it or unwilling to do so, then unfortunately they miss out. Are you for real?? What if they cannot drive? What if they stay miles away and public transport is not an option? What if they have been paid off and cannot afford it? What if their elderly parents bring them thus putting them at risk as they stay in a different household? What if they follow the guidelines, yes guidelines, for professional sports people, wear masks and travel with windows down? What about the associated fitness benefits for the players of being at training, mental health benefits too. Maybe not for us right enough depending on resultes. Paulrovers, in the words of jolly boy john, "Get Real"
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Post by paulrovers on Nov 21, 2020 18:52:45 GMT
We are in the middle of a global pandemic, sacrifices need to be made to ensure the safety of all and not just think of yourself. If you can’t afford to do something or are not able to travel within your family network then rather than risk others you would miss out. This is not easy and everyone is fully aware of the strain it is causing people.
Again, everyone will have different opinions on it.
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