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Post by bucky on Jul 29, 2021 13:10:49 GMT
…….. is the club doing one this year?
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Post by cliftonbill on Jul 29, 2021 15:21:00 GMT
Good question, Bucky. As yet nobody has volunteered to take over from the esteemed Mr S McEwan as Production Editor/Designer etc etc. There was some talk of contracting an outside source to produce a programme, but I’m not at all sure if the club or the Supporters Trust would be willing or able to fund such an enterprise.
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Post by bucky on Jul 29, 2021 17:12:24 GMT
Cheers Bill. A big thank you to Stephen McEwan for his huge contribution to the match day programme for I’m guessing about the last 15-20 years.
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Post by rab on Jul 29, 2021 17:23:25 GMT
It will be a very poor show if we have no programme - the last season that happened was 1969/70.
Someone should find out from Stenhousemuir who prints their programme. Theirs is 12 pages on black and white paper and contains all the information a supporter would need, including player sponsorship pages. Compared to our recent editions of 28 all colour glossy pages, it would certainly be a lot cheaper to produce and may even turn in a small profit on low sales.
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Post by mildrover on Jul 29, 2021 19:21:40 GMT
Good question, Bucky. As yet nobody has volunteered to take over from the esteemed Mr S McEwan as Production Editor/Designer etc etc. There was some talk of contracting an outside source to produce a programme, but I’m not at all sure if the club or the Supporters Trust would be willing or able to fund such an enterprise. I got to realise the work that went on behind the scenes to produce the programme when as chairman I wrote my comments for each home game. Stephen, David and Bill did a brilliant job to produce a quality product. I realise others were involved and well done to them. Rab you say it’s a poor show that there may be no programme this season. A poor show by whom? Those hanging up their tools have put in years of great service. It’s now over to others to pick up the torch regarding the programme and the running of the club shop. Maybe one or others of these you would like to pick up. Ronnie
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Post by rab on Jul 29, 2021 19:33:47 GMT
By the club. No criticism at all of the previous programme team, who (as I've said before) produced the best programme in the club's history. There's been a lot of new Directors appointed recently - maybe one of them could take the lead.
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Post by Nanook on Jul 29, 2021 19:59:02 GMT
Bit harsh, Ronnie. Think contacting Stenhousemuir would do no harm although I suspect it is a supporters effort rather than the club..
A programme used to be seen as part of the day out at a match. I am not sure that is the case any more.
Design, content, deadlines, dealing with printers, selling the programmes and whatever else, there is a lot of work that is for sure..
Pretty sure the club were happy that the Trust took on the funding of the programme, are the Trust still of that opinion?
If there is to be programme, I am willing to write Rovers historical articles, one or two page in length.
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Post by mildrover on Jul 29, 2021 20:07:09 GMT
I asked a fair question Brian. Not harsh at all. The Supporters Trust have run the programme for many years and have relied on the brilliant efforts of volunteers the same as in many other aspects of the club. If someone from the BOD wants to take it on then fair enough but like the running of the club shop etc someone has to follow in the footsteps of those who have done it before and volunteer to do these things or they don't happen. What's the point in contacting Stenhousemuir if we have no one to run ours? Rab says someone should contact Stenhousemuir. Who is the someone he has in mind?
Ronnie
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Post by rab on Jul 29, 2021 21:17:34 GMT
I've already said, Ronnie!
A match programme is a vehicle of the club. The Trust has been the body producing it, but that has been under the auspices of the club. Now that the programme team are standing down, it is up to the CLUB to take the lead and see how the programme can be produced from now on. No doubt they would want to liaise with the Trust to see if other people there can take it on and, if not, the CLUB needs to look at what other arrangement can be made.
The Directors are the people who run the club (how many do we have again)? They are the ones who need to sort it out, or at least explain why they can't.
If they can identify someone to take it forward, then that person as a first step might wish to contact Stenhousemuir.
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Post by chris on Jul 29, 2021 23:16:08 GMT
If the club take it on they need to look at it sensibly,
1. Does it turn a profit, if not can they afford to take the hit (I'm going to say no, as I would rather the money went into the team on the park)
2. Can they do it internally (if it's contracted and outsourced, then no as I again want the money in on field ventures)
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Post by mildrover on Jul 30, 2021 6:05:41 GMT
I've already said, Ronnie! A match programme is a vehicle of the club. The Trust has been the body producing it, but that has been under the auspices of the club. Now that the programme team are standing down, it is up to the CLUB to take the lead and see how the programme can be produced from now on. No doubt they would want to liaise with the Trust to see if other people there can take it on and, if not, the CLUB needs to look at what other arrangement can be made. The Directors are the people who run the club (how many do we have again)? They are the ones who need to sort it out, or at least explain why they can't. If they can identify someone to take it forward, then that person as a first step might wish to contact Stenhousemuir. Several good points here about the programme Rab. Your question about how many directors we have prompted me to visit the official club website to check. I remember at the AGM in January it was said that information on the 8 directors including a photo and details of their roles on the board would be posted on the website There are photos of most of the directors but no information on any. As Covid restrictions ease and a new season begins this might be a good time for the club to organise a meet the BOD event. Ronnie
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Post by bucky on Jul 30, 2021 8:57:35 GMT
If the club take it on they need to look at it sensibly, 1. Does it turn a profit, if not can they afford to take the hit (I'm going to say no, as I would rather the money went into the team on the park) 2. Can they do it internally (if it's contracted and outsourced, then no as I again want the money in on field ventures) Reading between the lines I think the club’s priorities is to increase the social media profile which let’s face it was much needed and it’s been brilliantly done so far by young Ben Kearney. I mean the manager’s column in a programme has effectively been usurped when his pre and post match YouTube interviews are one click away. The thing is that “someone” who is going to give Stenny a phone might give QP a phone who’s programme is exclusively online which is the scourge of the dyed in the wool programme collectors of the world. I know it boils down to time and money but ultimately it comes down to someone picking up the ball and pouring huge personal time into on a voluntary basis and make it a viable product.
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Post by Nanook on Jul 30, 2021 10:33:53 GMT
Can the club afford a match day programme?
Can the Trust afford a match day programme?
Is the Stenhousemuir model a possibility?
Is the QP model a possibility?
First, time for the Board to let us know what they think.
Second, time for the Trust to let us know what they think.
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Post by jordancampbell on Jul 30, 2021 11:03:16 GMT
Interesting debate around the viability of a matchday programme.
Will be discussed at next BoD meeting and decision made soon.
Jordan.
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Post by rab on Aug 1, 2021 16:16:42 GMT
I know of no league club in Britain other than QP that does an online ONLY programme - plenty do online AND traditional paper sell-on-the-day issues, and that's fine. But the problem with online programmes is that technology changes can mean the software and platforms becoming obsolete, or even that decisions are taken to stop hosting them to reduce server hosting costs. Try finding a QP online programme from 2 years ago or more (here's the 'link' to one of them): queensparkfc.co.uk/?p=9345Programmes very often include comment and articles that you don't get elsewhere - the Rovers one certainly did and had no shortage of contributors. A programme is part of a club's history and heritage. If you lose that, you lose much that is meaningful about supporting a club.
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