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Post by bucky on Apr 11, 2022 13:03:49 GMT
I’m pretty much on the fence. There are benefits to giving a manager time and continuity, but the other side of the coin is I wouldn’t be totally disappointed if he left. Who knows he may be on his way elsewhere anyway.
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Post by liveinhope on Apr 11, 2022 13:34:54 GMT
Nope. No offence I'm sure he's an honest big fella but he's a tactical dinosaur who doesn't inspire players. He just couldn't get any consistency out of a decent bunch of players who should have been fighting for a play off place. The result of that is disaffected players who give a performance like Saturday's. If players are wanting away from the club its down to the manager. He has to make them believe in some kind of project moving forward and that would have included winning their remaining games. If we can keep a core of the present players with some young blood then let's go.
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Post by bucky on Apr 11, 2022 13:42:34 GMT
Nope. No offence I'm sure he's an honest big fella but he's a tactical dinosaur who doesn't inspire players. He just couldn't get any consistency out of a decent bunch of players who should have been fighting for a play off place. The result of that is disaffected players who give a performance like Saturday's. If players are wanting away from the club its down to the manager. He has to make them believe in some kind of project moving forward and that would have included winning their remaining games. If we can keep a core of the present players with some young blood then let's go. Fair point. I was quite disappointed to hear Brian Reid blaming the state of the Cliftonhill pitch for players not wanting to sign for the club. Any player who signs should be wanting to play for Brian Reid.
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Post by stewmelrover on Apr 11, 2022 14:18:38 GMT
The players did not seem disaffected when beating Annan. So what has gone wrong since then? 5 matches unbeaten; great enthusiasm; then Saturday happened. Total silence since Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 14:41:24 GMT
Silence indeed unlike the no rhythm nation and no I wouldn't keep him.
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Post by jmce on Apr 11, 2022 15:44:07 GMT
I think I’d be 70:30 in favour of keeping. Managing us has to be one of the hardest jobs in league football. All things considered I think he’s done a pretty decent job. That could have been a lot better.
We’ve also been pretty hard hit by injuries, especially in forward areas throughout this season. I think sat was a bit of one of those games where after the main target had been achieved and there was a flatness and the game ran away from us. Im not going to be too hard on anyone for that after the really good performances of the past 2 months or so. So the conspiracy theories don’t sit well with myself.
Yes I disagree with a some team selections and tactics at times, but we always think we’re geniuses ourselves don’t we. The change in formation about 2 months ago has been key to us going on the recent run of good performances and results. Limits us attacking wise a bit I suppose but has really tightened us up at the back and secured safety. Harry stone having numerous clean sheets. I’ve lost count. And we weren’t exactly banging the goals in at 442 anyway. So an astute and successful change for me.
It’s a be careful what you wish for situation that we’ve been badly burned by in recent history.
It’s the nature of the beast I guess that some folk don’t want to keep any manager ever no matter what they’ve done. There are some valid points being made above as well though, that’s why it is a tricky one to be really sure what’s best.
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Post by stewmelrover on Apr 11, 2022 16:12:38 GMT
I definitely want him to stay, but Saturday was a real humiliation, which I think at leaat some sort of explanation would be very helpful. We need a bit of continuity. People on here demanded the sacking of Paul.Martin the year before we won promotion. But 0-5 to Stranraer? Good grief.
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Post by charlestheoptimist on Apr 11, 2022 16:48:49 GMT
I am sure he was hurting just like the rest of us on Saturday - and the players should be feeling ashamed and embarrassed by this performance. Whether it is Manchester City or Albion Rovers , players have professional pride to play for and should be accountable in difficult times. The thing that concerns me has been the apparent lack of leadership on the field when the going gets tough. We see opposition teams having guys who are quick to kick the proverbial backside of shirkers - do we see this ? The close season needs a bit of experience to support the guys here- if finances allow ! Not a great weekend - indeed a record home defeat against Stranraer- the odd 0.4 and 1-4 - but not a 5 ? We used to stuff them by that score in the past !!
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Post by bucky on Apr 11, 2022 18:39:44 GMT
I think I’d be 70:30 in favour of keeping. Managing us has to be one of the hardest jobs in league football. All things considered I think he’s done a pretty decent job. That could have been a lot better. We’ve also been pretty hard hit by injuries, especially in forward areas throughout this season. I think sat was a bit of one of those games where after the main target had been achieved and there was a flatness and the game ran away from us. Im not going to be too hard on anyone for that after the really good performances of the past 2 months or so. So the conspiracy theories don’t sit well with myself. Yes I disagree with a some team selections and tactics at times, but we always think we’re geniuses ourselves don’t we. The change in formation about 2 months ago has been key to us going on the recent run of good performances and results. Limits us attacking wise a bit I suppose but has really tightened us up at the back and secured safety. Harry stone having numerous clean sheets. I’ve lost count. And we weren’t exactly banging the goals in at 442 anyway. So an astute and successful change for me. It’s a be careful what you wish for situation that we’ve been badly burned by in recent history. It’s the nature of the beast I guess that some folk don’t want to keep any manager ever no matter what they’ve done. There are some valid points being made above as well though, that’s why it is a tricky one to be really sure what’s best. Again fair points made. I’ll be honest I near sh!t myself everytime our infamous 3 man committee gets together for a managerial appointment. The route of Paul Martin’s team was a sound defence which sometimes we look as if we have it licked this season and then again sometimes we don’t. I think current manager does know how to set up a team but sometimes there is just something missing.
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Post by arfcdm on Apr 11, 2022 18:44:10 GMT
We've been a mixed bag this year, some brilliant performances and some woeful ones. Been a lot of injuries also, but what is worth bearing in mind is Reid has kept us up with 4 games to go. Any new manager is a punt regardless of what anyone says, we will always be that way where we might not recover from a bad appointment they way we did when Brogan took over. If his heart is in it and he wants to stay then I'd be happy enough. We ain't getting Klopp or Guardiola.
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Post by stewmelrover on Apr 11, 2022 19:00:45 GMT
Lots of good points above. I think Saturday was such a shock after some great performances that speculation about what might or might not be happening is rife. [Well, with me anyway!!] The silence from the club is not helping one bit.
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Post by jordancampbell on Apr 11, 2022 20:31:59 GMT
Lots of good points above. I think Saturday was such a shock after some great performances that speculation about what might or might not be happening is rife. [Well, with me anyway!!] The silence from the club is not helping one bit. Saturday wasn’t good enough, there’s no arguing with that. But we move forward and on - a bad day at the office after an impressive run which secured our place in the SPFL. Taylor - who usually does the interview post-match, had to rush off thus no debrief from Brian. Jordan.
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Post by rovers on Apr 12, 2022 13:11:20 GMT
Agreed Klopp or Pep aren't on their way to the San Siro.
What was this season (and probably every season until I win my millions) objective.
It was to stay in the league ie avoid 10th spot. Yes, it is a limited ambition but the budget is probably limit and we hear time and again that we have the lowest budget of any spfl team.
On that alone he should be kept in post. One shite result with a worse performance sees this thread being posted deary me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 13:32:29 GMT
It's not about one game but the season as a whole and to suggest otherwise is unfair to those making comments. The players are decent and have underachieved and the buck stops at the manager who has frequently failed to get the best out of them. Also likely that he has pissed off a fair number of the squad by dropping them after one bad game while certain favourites only had to turn up to be picked. As for the Stone/Binnie situation we didn't need Stone as Binnie was doing a great job and he would have every right to be hacked off.
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Post by Nanook on Apr 12, 2022 13:32:44 GMT
I think that Brian has done the biz, avoided the bottom play off, think we were better than scraping along the bottom most of the season.
It depends how many players from this season we can keep a hold of, we could have a go next season at the top end.
An experienced player in midfield to calm all down and another experienced player at the back, and we should be good to go.
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