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Post by scoaussie on Jan 4, 2023 8:27:29 GMT
As a casual viewer of Albion Rovers over the years and reader of the forum, it strikes me that the club will never fully move forward until the ownership structure is sorted. There is no doubt that the club has been supported by fans, members and volunteers over the years, acting on nothing but loyalty for ARFC, but without owners that contribute to the finances of the club, the inevitable drop into LL will occur. Referencing some previous threads below, the same points seem to come up every 6 months or so then fall away due to inaction. arfc.proboards.com/thread/1987/shareholdingarfc.proboards.com/thread/2013/approach-antonarfc.proboards.com/thread/2364/where-5-years-timeI’m surprised the BOD haven’t pursued the dead shares which could be used to bring in new owners and much needed investment. Surely new ownership should be priority 1 for the survival of the club and the redistribution of the dead shares could allow fans to be part of the ownership model. I would be willing to be part of a larger fan/private group to take over the club, if the numbers and appetite is here. Maybe the club needs an effort outwith current management to put pressure on this Fagan fella if he has so much influence. An open letter shared across media outlets encouraging him to sell his shares and support a new direction would put some unwanted spotlight on this guy. MaxG82 what's your strategy here to take over the club? |
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Post by mildrover on Jan 4, 2023 8:42:18 GMT
Firstly, welcome to the Rovers message board Rovers16Arfc. Secondly, the offer of investment is genuine. Lastly, the new Community Development Officer you mention in one of your many posts is employed by the Community Trust not the club. Ronnie That great that its genuine and what's the CDO got to do with being employed by community trust and not the club in many of my posts I don't understand what your point is. I think even on fans’ forums a wee bit of accuracy is important. You talked about the club’s Community Officer. I was just pointing out the club don’t have a Community Officer but the Community Trust do. That was all. Ronnie |
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Post by rovers16arfc on Jan 4, 2023 9:03:04 GMT
That great that its genuine and what's the CDO got to do with being employed by community trust and not the club in many of my posts I don't understand what your point is. I think even on fans’ forums a wee bit of accuracy is important. You talked about the club’s Community Officer. I was just pointing out the club don’t have a Community Officer but the Community Trust do. That was all. Ronnie So what you've basically just said without directly saying is that the community officer is for the community trust only should it not be working together with the club as in working together for the greater good rather than every man for themself, Saying its the community trust whose employed the cdo not the club doesn't look good when it should be working with the club to also help bring in funds, like what other community trusts do working in conjunction with a football club |
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Post by mildrover on Jan 4, 2023 9:57:24 GMT
Was just stating the fact that CDO is employed and paid for by the Community Trust.
The club will confirm that the Trust makes every effort to work closely with them and contributes regularly financially for payment of community events at the stadium.
Ronnie
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Post by rovers16arfc on Jan 4, 2023 10:35:52 GMT
Was just stating the fact that CDO is employed and paid for by the Community Trust. The club will confirm that the Trust makes every effort to work closely with them and contributes regularly financially for payment of community events at the stadium. Ronnie So is what your saying then to understand it that Albion rovers community trust development officer is a complete separate entity and has nothing to do with the football club 🤔 |
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Post by mildrover on Jan 4, 2023 10:46:53 GMT
Yes that’s right.
I now await your outraged reply 😁
Ronnie
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Post by bucky on Jan 4, 2023 11:01:08 GMT
Good to see so many new users on the messageboard with such vim , vigour and enthusiasm. Would be helpful if they would disclose their real names. Would hate to think it all came from the one source.
Buchanan Smith
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Post by stewmelrover on Jan 4, 2023 11:15:46 GMT
It is very interesting indeed. Another one just popped up. Great to see such interest, etc., Etc.
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Post by rovers16arfc on Jan 4, 2023 11:38:37 GMT
Yes that’s right. I now await your outraged reply 😁 Ronnie No outraged reply just don't get why trying to distance self from the club when all other community trust development officers along with community work , work in conjunction with there clubs but our one doesn't because as you say the community trust pays the wage , maybe if they worked together more positively we could even get a better sfa quality mark than bronze which will be lost if more isn't done. Curious question what is the point in a football clubs community trust if it has more or less no youth teams where as if you look at others they have teams from under 5s all the way through the age groups even the same on the ladies side , so why don't we have that or is it not a football clubs community trust and again takes nothing to do with the club and thinks of itself only . |
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Post by rovers16arfc on Jan 4, 2023 11:57:25 GMT
Good to see so many new users on the messageboard with such vim , vigour and enthusiasm. Would be helpful if they would disclose their real names. Would hate to think it all came from the one source. Buchanan Smith I'd rather not disclose anything at the moment my main concern is the club I love and the progression which it deserves as we have so much potential to unleash if we were to be more ambitious just for example there is so much empty space which is unused and countless ideas of things that could be done even think outside the box with the help of others and see what we could come up with rather than slate anyone who has an idea or hit back with sarcastic comments even to attract younger fans , I've even seen people moan that there being to noisy and the drum they had was too loud and out of tune or whatever, it brings a good atmosphere and we should be encouraging it instead of driving new blood away even the music situation complaining to turn it down because people can't talk come on really stop being old farts it's a football ground it's supposed to be loud |
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Post by mildrover on Jan 4, 2023 20:52:02 GMT
Yes that’s right. I now await your outraged reply 😁 Ronnie No outraged reply just don't get why trying to distance self from the club when all other community trust development officers along with community work , work in conjunction with there clubs but our one doesn't because as you say the community trust pays the wage , maybe if they worked together more positively we could even get a better sfa quality mark than bronze which will be lost if more isn't done. Curious question what is the point in a football clubs community trust if it has more or less no youth teams where as if you look at others they have teams from under 5s all the way through the age groups even the same on the ladies side , so why don't we have that or is it not a football clubs community trust and again takes nothing to do with the club and thinks of itself only . The Supporters Trust and the Community Trusts have both been commended for their work and through their efforts the name/ brand of Albion Rovers has been greatly enhanced. You seem to have a one dimensional view of a Community Trust as simply running youth teams. It’s much wider and comprehensive than that. Ronnie |
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Post by rovers16arfc on Jan 4, 2023 21:46:21 GMT
No outraged reply just don't get why trying to distance self from the club when all other community trust development officers along with community work , work in conjunction with there clubs but our one doesn't because as you say the community trust pays the wage , maybe if they worked together more positively we could even get a better sfa quality mark than bronze which will be lost if more isn't done. Curious question what is the point in a football clubs community trust if it has more or less no youth teams where as if you look at others they have teams from under 5s all the way through the age groups even the same on the ladies side , so why don't we have that or is it not a football clubs community trust and again takes nothing to do with the club and thinks of itself only . The Supporters Trust and the Community Trusts have both been commended for their work and through their efforts the name/ brand of Albion Rovers has been greatly enhanced. You seem to have a one dimensional view of a Community Trust as simply running youth teams. It’s much wider and comprehensive than that. Ronnie Its definitely not a one dimensional view and i know Its certainly not running teams anyway that's a fact and being perfectly honest where and how has the community trust greatly enhanced the brand of albion rovers , how much I wish that was true, and what does the community actually do for anyone under the age of 25 and saying but we do football camps maybe 6 or u times a year that is not enough. Nothing really gets done for youth and who have even been told to quiet down at games , you could be so much more popular if you had a full system to increase the sfa quality mark to gold or above which would help in getting grants for other things but again community trust isn't interested in anyone under the age of 25/30 |
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Post by mildrover on Jan 4, 2023 23:36:46 GMT
The Supporters Trust and the Community Trusts have both been commended for their work and through their efforts the name/ brand of Albion Rovers has been greatly enhanced. You seem to have a one dimensional view of a Community Trust as simply running youth teams. It’s much wider and comprehensive than that. Ronnie Its definitely not a one dimensional view and i know Its certainly not running teams anyway that's a fact and being perfectly honest where and how has the community trust greatly enhanced the brand of albion rovers , how much I wish that was true, and what does the community actually do for anyone under the age of 25 and saying but we do football camps maybe 6 or u times a year that is not enough. Nothing really gets done for youth and who have even been told to quiet down at games , you could be so much more popular if you had a full system to increase the sfa quality mark to gold or above which would help in getting grants for other things but again community trust isn't interested in anyone under the age of 25/30 Rovers16Arfc There was a Community Interest Company, set up in April 2019, called Albion Rovers CIC. I'm not sure if the club gave their permission for use of their name. I believe their intention was to establish a youth football team system in the town and make money through players' subs which would have been reinvested in the set up. On set up they claimed to have 120 players in their teams and 19 coaches. The chair was David Caldwell and the other directors were: Simon Delahay, Craig Downs, Colin Miller and Andrew Tallan. You may know some of these people. In just over a year the CIC was struck off and then dissolved. It does not look as anything other than registering the company was ever done. Maybe talking to one or more of them would help in taking forward your dream of a full youth system. Ronnie |
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Post by rovers16arfc on Jan 4, 2023 23:54:13 GMT
Its definitely not a one dimensional view and i know Its certainly not running teams anyway that's a fact and being perfectly honest where and how has the community trust greatly enhanced the brand of albion rovers , how much I wish that was true, and what does the community actually do for anyone under the age of 25 and saying but we do football camps maybe 6 or u times a year that is not enough. Nothing really gets done for youth and who have even been told to quiet down at games , you could be so much more popular if you had a full system to increase the sfa quality mark to gold or above which would help in getting grants for other things but again community trust isn't interested in anyone under the age of 25/30 Rovers16Arfc There was a Community Interest Company, set up in April 2019, called Albion Rovers CIC. I'm not sure if the club gave their permission for use of their name. I believe their intention was to establish a youth football team system in the town and make money through players' subs which would have been reinvested in the set up. On set up they claimed to have 120 players in their teams and 19 coaches. The chair was David Caldwell and the other directors were: Simon Delahay, Craig Downs, Colin Miller and Andrew Tallan. You may know some of these people. In just over a year the CIC was struck off and then dissolved. It does not look as anything other than registering the company was ever done. Maybe talking to one or more of them would help in taking forward your dream of a full youth system. Ronnie Don't know any of them to be honest and you completely swerved the fact the community trust isn't interested anyone who is under the age of 25 and interested only in itself. your quite good at bringing up things from the past but what is the community trust actually doing for the future what is it doing to attract and bring in young fans and as I said putting on a football camp 6 or 7 times in a year isn't enough |
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Post by mildrover on Jan 4, 2023 23:56:12 GMT
Anyway back to the topic. The offer of investment is genuine. Without significant new investment the club will find it increasingly difficult to maintain their SPFL status.
Ronnie
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