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Post by marmiteman on Feb 23, 2019 22:24:32 GMT
If Theresa May reacted like you guys we'd still be looking at staying in Europe. We will beat Berwick twice. Stop underestimating other teams who are all pretty decent in this league. I still think Kevin will deliver. Up the Vers.
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Post by arfcdm on Feb 23, 2019 22:27:58 GMT
If Theresa May reacted like you guys we'd still be looking at staying in Europe. We will beat Berwick twice. Stop underestimating other teams who are all pretty decent in this league. I still think Kevin will deliver. Up the Vers. Peter Beating Berwick twice is still not enough.
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Post by k70 on Feb 23, 2019 22:32:00 GMT
If Theresa May reacted like you guys we'd still be looking at staying in Europe. We will beat Berwick twice. Stop underestimating other teams who are all pretty decent in this league. I still think Kevin will deliver. Up the Vers. Peter [b Too far. Welcome to wonderland Alice! Give us a break!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 22:41:25 GMT
i hope u are right but for me the optimism is gone Kevin Harper has done nothing if anything we would of een better off keeping Brogan as his win rate was better or should that be "less worse"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 22:46:08 GMT
if we lose next week we should all be backing a change as if Kevin Harper can't manage a win against Berwick at home how can we trust him to win the playoff
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 0:30:10 GMT
If Theresa May reacted like you guys we'd still be looking at staying in Europe. We will beat Berwick twice. Stop underestimating other teams who are all pretty decent in this league. I still think Kevin will deliver. Up the Vers. Peter Haha! Oh, Peter, always politicising things. You’re batsh*t nuts - bless your soul.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 11:13:01 GMT
at this stage I say give Ciaran the job, bring in Gemmell who we know is keen even if it's as part of the backroom and see if we can get some kind of momentum going in the next 2 months to survive in the playoff. in short it's go for broke time Aye right - nonsense. What’s the alternative, Prof? Anything to suggest?
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Post by Rovergrant on Feb 24, 2019 13:45:53 GMT
Twelve months prior to the last AGM there was a meeting with several experienced and motivated individuals who cared about the club. These individuals consisted of shareholders, ex club directors and professional business people. The sole purpose of this meeting was to look at structuring a 3-5-year business plan to take the club forward with pace and structure. For twelve months these individuals have met on a regular basis and prepared for a scenario where their skills and experience may one day be required.Prior to December there was a proposed meeting with the board and a representative of our group to discuss our concerns, its fair to say at this time there was little motivation from the board to work with us and communications between the two parties ended quite abruptly.The AGM this year, once again provided a platform for the current board to present their successes, plans and confidence in them as robust leaders. Both manager and chairman stood united, making positive statements and promises of securing league two status. Its been well documented in the press and through AGM statements that the existing board see themselves as the savours of the club and they have the right blend of experience, knowledge and management to see the club through this difficult time, we can only wish them luck for the sake of the club. It is now the boards full responsibility to deliver on the promises made to shareholders and fans alike, for us as a group its more important the club keeps its league two status, than to be involved at the club at this existing time. Failure will see the club sink to depths its never experienced during its long existence as a senior football league club. We are all like-minded individuals with the club’s best interest at the core of our intentions. We have a vision for the club and a plan, both on the park and in the community, we are confident in our statements that we have the knowledge, experience and contacts to facilitate positive change.If at any time the existing board feel its time to “call it a day”, we are confident we can support them in any transition of managerial responsibilities at that time. In the meantime, we will always fully support the board and the team during this difficult time, we do not see our success, as the existing boards failure, we have the club’s best interests at the forefront of any decision we make. Also we have a strategy to support the manager in preparation for the playoffs (if required).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 21:58:33 GMT
Great post Grant. Rather than replace the Board at the moment can they support the current structure? I'm sure the BoD will accept assistance in this time of need and show solidarity with a coming together. A DoF will surely assist KH as well. What can you tell us?
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Post by tinfoilhatman on Feb 24, 2019 22:27:08 GMT
Lol? ps Martin much happening mate, or just the internet for you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 22:29:00 GMT
Just the usual my friend. Always on the go 😉
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 23:50:50 GMT
View AttachmentLol? ps Martin much happening mate, or just the internet for you? And what about yourself. Going to add to your 10 posts as a "new member". Perhaps share your wisdom on how to run a football club.
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Post by Rovergrant on Feb 25, 2019 8:25:10 GMT
Thanks, ProRege, maybe you will recall last September that I posted an `Open Letter to the Board` suggesting that they involve all who have the club`s interests at heart, including members of the business community, and not just behave as a closed shop. Response ? - none. Since then things have gone from bad to worse. A representative of the group mentioned above did meet with Directors but those board members placed too many pre-conditions on further talks, so that went nowhere. Then you have the ongoing vilification/discrediting attempts against those who may/may not have been part of the group seeking to help the club much of this coming from those either on or close to the BOD. The latest being Bucky`s assertion that it was Lindsay Hamilton that it was he who appointed John Brogan - ask yourself where he could possibly have heard that ? Then there was the comments by another individual who IS close to the BOD making comments about an elderly shareholder - comments verging on the libelous. David Caldwell was accused of posting on this board under two names(which he denies) - when I asked where was the source of this `revelation`, I was told by Chris if I remember correctly it was `someone at the club` The club is in a deep hole...a hole being dug by the BOD. Instead of reaching out to hands that could help pull them out of that hole...what do they do...they ask for a bigger shovel.
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Post by rab on Feb 25, 2019 19:52:28 GMT
Isn't this the BoD that the shareholders recently re-elected (as you told us) 'unanimously'? And since you were at the AGM Grant, you must have voted for them? Were you wrong then? If so, what does that say about your judgement?
You criticise where Bucky may have got his information, rather than considering whether or not the information is correct. Is the information true? If it is, then Mr Hamilton's judgement is not to be trusted either.
As for Mr Caldwell, all I've noticed from him is self-publicising drivel. Did he make posts under any anonymous name at all? Because making public comments under a pseudonym about a club/company upon which you are seeking a place on the Board raises questions of integrity.
All in all, whatever the deficiencies of the current BoD may be, your consortium does not inspire confidence.
The time to act, if action was needed, was the AGM. Either the 'challengers' bottled it, or they realised they didn't have the support of the shareholders and decided not to make a move.
This 'we are the saviours in waiting' is beyond tedious and is beginning to look like a vendetta. If your consortium thinks it has the support, it should seek to call an EGM at the end of the season. Otherwise, you'd do everyone (including yourself) a favour if you stopped this continual re-hashing of all the things you have said before.
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Post by Rovergrant on Feb 27, 2019 17:04:46 GMT
You criticise where Bucky may have got his information, rather than considering whether or not the information is correct. Is the information true? If it is, then Mr Hamilton's judgement is not to be trusted either. . Lindsay Hamilton did not appoint John Brogan on his own as has been alleged on this message board as there is no way that the rest of the Board, or the Chairman at that time, would have allowed him or any other individual director to do this as part of what should have been an overall Board decision. The person who did appoint John Brogan on his own was the Chairman at that time without consulting with the rest of the Board or bringing it to them for a collective decision.
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