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Post by thelaird70 on Mar 11, 2020 11:26:46 GMT
Reading in today's Advertiser that Kevin is saying Refereeing decisions are costing us games. I sympathise with Kevin on this subject as all you want from referees is consistency which is missing at the present time. When did you ever see an Assistant Referee flag for an infringement until after the Referee has signalled.
Many years ago when I was at the Club I compiled a three page report on referees performances in relation to the issue of yellow and red cards to the SFA. The main thrust of the report was why certain referees could officiate at matches without issuing any cards whilst other individuals seemed to issue them with a vengeance. I gave a breakdown of the individuals involved, the number of red and yellow cards attributed to each and felt the report was very illuminating.
It came as no surprise to me that I did not receive the courtesy of a reply.
Until Referees are allowed to provide after match comments as Managers do this situation will never change. Referee Supervisors attend several matches during a Season but Clubs are denied sight of their reports as I have requested them in the past.
It is a closed shop as Refereers are not accountable for their actions
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Post by samtennentjnr on Mar 11, 2020 12:01:58 GMT
I would say there have been a couple of decisions against us in the last couple of games which have been outrageous ( i hear Edinburgh City have not included the "handball" in their excellent highlights package), but I do always worry when things like this come out.
I think in situations like ours there is always a good case for trying to create a Us v The World attitude. Paul Martin was the master of it and it was thrust upon us last year with the great escape. We need a rallying cry like that to get us over the line.
Moaning about Refs never really creates this atmosphere, it creates something less fun and almost gives us a scapegoat. The fact is in most of these games we should have been good enough to get a point despite the decisions, we never got fired up enough in the games to right the injustice.
Refs arent helping us but I dont think they are to blame for where we are. - and this is coming from a "happy clapper"
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Post by jaydee on Mar 11, 2020 12:53:21 GMT
I would say there has been at least 1 outrageous decision in at least 4 of the last 5 games.
While we haven’t deserved to win these games, I certainly don’t believe we deserved to lose all 5..
I also, like you, find it very strange that the highlights package doesn’t show the penalty incident.
Whether it’s right or wrong to mention these in the media, who knows, but I can completely understand the managers frustration.
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Post by Rovergrant on Mar 11, 2020 14:11:00 GMT
In the past the SFA would hammer managers, players, club officials - even programme editors (happened to me once many years ago) who criticised referees in print...of course that was before social media.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 16:15:07 GMT
As a well heard critic of referees it can't hide the fact that we are poor regardless of decisions.
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Post by tommysermanni on Mar 11, 2020 16:51:03 GMT
The standard of refereeing at our level isn't great but anyone talking of a conspiracy theory against Rovers is wrong.
We are getting beaten more often than not because we are a poor team. Plain and simple.
When you are near the foot of the table a lot of 50/50 situations seem to go against you.
KH put all this nonsense to bed by securing a couple of victories. Time to stop feeling sorry for ourselves.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 11, 2020 16:59:32 GMT
The standard of refereeing at our level isn't great but anyone talking of a conspiracy theory against Rovers is wrong. We are getting beaten more often than not because we are a poor team. Plain and simple. When you are near the foot of the table a lot of 50/50 situations seem to go against you. KH put all this nonsense to bed by securing a couple of victories. Time to stop feeling sorry for ourselves. No one is talking about a conspiracy theory, but in 2 of the games (that we have lost by 1 goal by the way) the ‘winning’ goal shouldn’t have stood, plus question marks over the winner in a 3rd of the games then surely you can understand the frustration? |
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Post by charlestheoptimist on Mar 11, 2020 17:45:54 GMT
It used to be the case many years ago , that even the so called top referees officiated in lower league games - the likes of Davie Syme/Jim Mcluskey/ Bob Valentine etc would cover a Rovers game . This seemed to stop on the advent of the SPL , when we only seem to get the lesser known lights who are still learning their trade and often costing us valuable points - a return to the old days may be the answer.
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Post by Rovergrant on Mar 11, 2020 18:34:36 GMT
Ah...Bob Valentine... Remember seing him in 1980 at the Olympic Games in Moscow refereeing the Russia v Venezuela , the opening tie at the Lenin Stadium. Russia won 4-0. Will need to try and dig out some of my pictures from that game
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Post by Rovergrant on Mar 11, 2020 18:55:23 GMT
Just posted a couple of these pictures on the Nostalgia pages
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Post by mildrover on Mar 13, 2020 18:41:33 GMT
Reading in today's Advertiser that Kevin is saying Refereeing decisions are costing us games. I sympathise with Kevin on this subject as all you want from referees is consistency which is missing at the present time. When did you ever see an Assistant Referee flag for an infringement until after the Referee has signalled. Many years ago when I was at the Club I compiled a three page report on referees performances in relation to the issue of yellow and red cards to the SFA. The main thrust of the report was why certain referees could officiate at matches without issuing any cards whilst other individuals seemed to issue them with a vengeance. I gave a breakdown of the individuals involved, the number of red and yellow cards attributed to each and felt the report was very illuminating. It came as no surprise to me that I did not receive the courtesy of a reply. Until Referees are allowed to provide after match comments as Managers do this situation will never change. Referee Supervisors attend several matches during a Season but Clubs are denied sight of their reports as I have requested them in the past. It is a closed shop as Refereers are not accountable for their actions An interesting piece Laird, but to me the most telling point is the fact you did not even receive a reply. I am not confident that things have improved on that front. Instead of being responsive to points raised by clubs the football authorities in this country seem to be distant and unresponsive. Ronnie |
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