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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Apr 20, 2020 15:25:33 GMT
The prospect of starting the 2020/21 season and all games being played behind closed doors for at least a proportion of the season has been mooted.
It seems to me that this is absolutely a non-starter. They say that the league could contact Sky about fans having a virtual season ticket to watch their teams play.
There seems to have been absolutely no thought that although conceivably they could cover Old Firm matches home and away and perhaps even all Premier matches there's no chance whatsoever that Rovers v Cowdenbeath for instance would be shown live. That would see Rovers play matches and incurring perhaps 98% of all the usual costs of a game but having no income at all, that's not sustainable.
Another thing mentioned as a possibility would be reduced capacity to allow for social distancing with various percentages from 10% to 50% of capacity mentioned. 50% wouldn't be an issue for us of course but 10% wouldn't be feasible financially either. There's no easy solution until there's a vaccine if there ever is one!
This situation also impacts on season tickets as clubs don't know how many games they'll be able to sell tickets for and how many, also reconstruction may affect this too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 16:07:25 GMT
With talk of a vaccine a year away I can't help feeling the current lockdown situation in general terms will become unsustainable. With regards to closed doors they are only, as usual,thinking about the big boys and the TV revenue.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Apr 20, 2020 16:15:51 GMT
Even the OF would struggle on TV money alone. I see our First Minister is worried that folk would congregate to watch live matches on TV.
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Post by charlestheoptimist on Apr 20, 2020 17:20:57 GMT
this is potential a more serious long term sustainability than during the war years when football went into cold storage for 6 years. This time around we already have a dwindling fan base in our game and with money dictating events towards the higher end of the scale -it is exceedingly more worrying for clubs in our position.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Apr 20, 2020 20:12:06 GMT
During the war football was still played, just on an ad hoc basis.
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Post by Nanook on Apr 20, 2020 21:02:53 GMT
First World War Rovers played in the Western league 1915-16 to 1918-19, were Champions 1917-18 and were 2nd the following season. Number of matches played in each season varies from 22 to 14.
Second World War Rovers played in the Western league, then 1940-41 to 1944-45 in the Southern league. Rovers were 7th first season then 15th each time for the other seasons. Number of matches was 30 each season.
The original Western league was quite local and a mix of second division and non league clubs.
Have not looked at the Second World War leagues too much but looks like pre-war First Division clubs, in a geographical line below Stirling (but not including Stirling).
So, not ad hoc as in they played in leagues, but ad hoc in as much as player registrations would have been more lax allowing guest players who were on troop movements to play.
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Post by mildrover on Apr 21, 2020 7:47:38 GMT
Apart from anything else how do you guarantee the safety of players. For instance how do you do social distancing in the dressing rooms, Do you not come within 2 metres of other players on the park. Also if games are played behind closed doors, players require to be paid. How do we get the money to pay them?
Ronnie
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Post by Nanook on Apr 21, 2020 13:56:16 GMT
As I remember it, Ronnie, me and you never got within 2 metres of the players we were supposed to be marking.
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Post by charlestheoptimist on Apr 21, 2020 16:26:55 GMT
My original post about the war years referred to the Scottish and English league set up as it was prior to 1939 when the existing league format was in place. The war years did benefit some clubs by competitive football within a Regional set up , but after the war was over the return to league set up still had a positive factor as the public demand was ever increasing and still there, whilst the money situation was not as major a determining factor for sustainability of clubs. What we have at present is the longer there is inaction and uncertainty we may lose a long term fan base and the imbalance in money distribution could finish off a number of clubs that dependent so readily on the sponsorship.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Apr 22, 2020 14:15:24 GMT
I see that our own Eddie Hagerty featured in the Daily Record today along with a Livi official who stuck to their usual modus operandi of money money and money for them and sod the fans! 
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Post by Rovergrant on Apr 22, 2020 19:02:51 GMT
Well said, Eddie
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 5:48:01 GMT
But then Livingston always need money as they're always going bust!
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Post by rab on Apr 23, 2020 17:13:33 GMT
The way things are going, we'll be lucky to have a 20/21 season at all. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52394685'...some measures remaining in place into next year, "or beyond"' '...gatherings in pubs and at public events....likely to be banned or restricted for some time to come' '...lockdown could have to be reinstated "with very little notice" if the transmission of the virus could not be controlled' Looks like we need to get ready for quite a long lay-off - I just hope we (and all other clubs) can survive it. |
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Post by tinfoilhatman on Apr 23, 2020 19:37:03 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49608471Is it time for the 18.82 club ? 11 paymments , month off, for good behaviour, free Scottish cup game if at home for the fun Save buying a season ticket keeps money coming in the club.
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Post by Nanook on Apr 23, 2020 21:26:58 GMT
The way things are going, we'll be lucky to have a 20/21 season at all. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52394685'...some measures remaining in place into next year, "or beyond"' '...gatherings in pubs and at public events....likely to be banned or restricted for some time to come' '...lockdown could have to be reinstated "with very little notice" if the transmission of the virus could not be controlled' Looks like we need to get ready for quite a long lay-off - I just hope we (and all other clubs) can survive it. I said before with three quarters of 19-20 season completed we should have played out the season when the chance arose. At the back of my mind was that season 20-21, could be on hold for some time, as Rab mentions above 'gatherings....at public events likely to be banned'. No one, but no one, knows when we will be back to normal. So, we could have 'buggered' two seasons up with the farcical and corrupt SPFL vote, and the tie in to cash depending on the vote. How much of a season will we get in 20-21? If it turns out to be one quarter, do we then go back to the three quarters that we dumped from before? |
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