Yesterday's match had quite a decent crowd: at least 500 if not more. It was reported as 332 which is clearly a very false figure indeed. It was the lowest recorded crowd in the whole country. Can anyone explain why the crowd figures are being presented as being far lower than they actually are? Simple enough question I think.
Have to agree, stewmelrover. We've both stood at Cliftonhill long enough to know a 332 crowd when we see one, and there was way more than that there yesterday. Perversely underestimating the crowd figure does the club no favours at all, and does my head in. And before someone says only 14 people actually paid through the turnstyle, I don't care: season ticket holders, aunties with comps, Man Utd scouts, stray dogs, drapped midfielders, wee guys who sneaked in at half time - they were all there, roaring the Rovers on throughout that vibrant second half, and there presence should be acknowledged in the official crowd figure.
When the club announce the attendance what is it based on. Is it only the amount of folk that have made the turnstyle click round. I don't get to many games due to looking after our clubs amateur team, I do have a season ticket tho'. Is my season ticket sale included in every home game attendance even though I am not there. I was there yesterday and went through the turnstyle so am I included twice??.
In the old days Old Tommy used to deliberately mark the numbers of the crowd down so that it meant he didn't pay out as much to the other team,( for our younger readers the clubs used to split the gate money for league games as well), but Tommy was a wily old fox. Nowadays the home team keep all the gate money so see no reason for doing anything similar with the total
Sam, I wasn't implying any fiscal skullduggery, just a seemingly perverse delight in giving Sunday Post readers the impression there were fewer fans at C'hill than there actually were. Stewmelrover has volunteered more than once to count the crowd at half time, for free. High time we took him up on his offer, I feel.
Jings I certainly wasn't implying anything like that, Was just interested in how the attendance is made up, obviously a lot of the folks standing there on Sat were season ticket holders so is the attendance made up from the amount of times the turnstyle clicks?
The mention of Tommy and his 'Arthur Daly' ways was just a wee amble down memory lane
There's a few agencies would take a dim view of under declaring income. Wasn't that one of the things the Juniors got hammered for a few years ago, allegedly. Not that I'm suggesting for a minute that anyone is at it. Maybe better delete this thread in case our most recent ex goalkeeper still reads it. Plus Bill I think you said some time ago you work beside him........... Yep someone needs to hit delete!
In the `old days` the attendance was calculated by - season tickets (all whether present or not) + cash customers + number of complimentary tickets handed out. Having said that the turnstile counters never worked and all season ticket / comp ticket holders entered by side gate to left of main gates.
Still no answer regarding why attendances are being under-stated. (And there is no doubt that this is the case). This is important, as it is making Rovers look like it has the smallest crowds in the whole country. I absolutely refuse to believe that Cowdenbeath V Berwick had a larger turnout on Saturday...
Not sure if this has been responded to yet but i had no intention of going to watch saturdays match but was allowed to enter the main gate at 2:50pm free of charge to go up to shop and buy a ticket for the cup game. And while i left the ground as soon as i bought my ticket it seems many more took advantage of free entry for brechin match.