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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Aug 5, 2018 18:20:10 GMT
Calling the board halfwits is a) really helpful or b) simplistic knee jerk pish?
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Post by kotwf on Aug 5, 2018 18:51:09 GMT
Calling the board halfwits is a) really helpful or b) simplistic knee jerk pish? ....or c) Neither Whilst it isn't helpful, it isn't 'simplistic knee jerk pish' (although the term halfwits is unnecessary). In a normal situation where a club loses a few games at the start of the season, and fans ask for the manager to be sacked, and question the board, I would agree that this would be a knee jerk reaction. However, this is not the case here. It's quite obvious that if this collection of players (who are completely blameless; they've been offered a job, and taken it - who wouldn't?) continue for the rest of the season the outcome is inevitable. I'd love to think that they will improve, but I just can't see it. Supporters are looking at the very real possibility of their team dropping out of League football, and more importantly, the prospect of seeing their club disappear. I suspect everyone is, like me, looking for answers as to how we've come to be in this position. - What has happened financially to lead us to the position that we can't put a team worthy of this level onto the pitch? - Is there any possibility of 'reversing' what has been done, and recruiting again before it's too late? - Are the players we've brought in actually the best we could have secured for the budget we have? - I understand that there has to be a budget, and that the survival of the club is the most important thing, so do those associated with the club have any plans in place for survival if a drop to Lowland League football occurs? The last thing that is needed is for the support to turn on the club and each other. I found Saturday very difficult viewing, and it would be all too easy to turn our back on the club as the season progresses, but that really would be the end of ARFC. If it wasn't for us hardy souls, there already would be no Rovers. The rest of Coatbridge doesn't care, so we have to...........
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Post by Rovergrant on Aug 5, 2018 19:27:40 GMT
A very thoughtful post which encapsulates what many of us supporters are thinking - and - frankly - extremely concerned about. We all know that BOD members look at this message board on a regular basis, be a positive move if there was a considered response to the legitimate points that kotwf has raised.
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Post by cliftonbill on Aug 5, 2018 20:03:13 GMT
Harriskid, as you know, Rovers fans - yourself included - have already set up a plan to pay players’ wages. It’s called The Albion Rovers Squad Fund. As of 1 July this year, we had donated in total £16, 570 to the club since the fund was set up in November 2012. And thanks to the generousity of a small group of Rovers fans - and a generous donation from the Supporters Trust earlier this year - we will continue to contribute £200 every month this season. It would of course be great if we could donate even more each month. So if any Rovers fans out there would like to help out, please email me at cliftonbillwalker@live.co.uk and I’ll send you full details. Thanks again to everybody who has donated their hard earned cash over the years. It is very much appreciated. Bill Walker
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Post by d7 on Aug 5, 2018 20:31:35 GMT
kotwf - that is a great post. In all seriousness it's a shame that's just your third post on here. The forum needs more realism like that.
Every other team in L2 will be praying we don't take any action as that will ensure their survival. It seems madness to be calling for a clearout after 1 league game but the evidence is there for all to see that is exactly what is needed.
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Post by tommysermanni on Aug 6, 2018 7:33:16 GMT
Guys we have to hold our nerve here. I understand the fears and worries of the fans but it is still very early days.
I would expect Edinburgh City to be in a play off spot at least this season but that doesn't in any way excuse what appears to have been a comprehensive drubbing.
Time will tell about the managerial appointment. It was a gamble to bring in a manager who has been out of league football for over 20 years but given the budget constraints we are operating under I thought a manager with a good knowledge of the Junior scene was worth a punt. I think as Chris said earlier we have to get 6 league games under our belt and look at the situation then.
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Post by d7 on Aug 6, 2018 8:15:39 GMT
Bringing in a manager who knows the junior game wasn't the worst idea, granted. Filling the team with guys from the lower end of the juniors and young guys from Alloa who aren't ready is bordering on reckless.
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Post by Sharkey on Aug 6, 2018 8:18:59 GMT
If this form continues will the board sack brogan and change things? They never sacked kerr when it was clear in december it wasnt working. In my opinion we would have stayed up had a change been made last winter. I hope brogan turns it around and we start to get goals and points bus as chris said,6 matches should tell if we are going forward
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Post by tommysermanni on Aug 6, 2018 8:25:11 GMT
It's early days but I think KOTWF has already made the most common sense post we will see all season.
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Post by paulrovers on Aug 6, 2018 11:01:33 GMT
Calling the board halfwits is a) really helpful or b) simplistic knee jerk pish? It’s not about being helpful. It was a halfwit of a decision to take such a gamble to bring an inexperienced guy in from the lower scale of the juniors and allow for the calibre of player to be signed. Maybe that’s what the budget allowed but I still think there were/are better options out there who could have sourced a better standard of player on a similar budget.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 12:13:46 GMT
I left uncharacteristically early on Saturday. Just before the fourth goal hit the back of the net. The awful sense of foreboding I felt prior to kick-off manifested itself in the most horrendous fashion. We look out of our depth from back to front. I’ve never, ever seen a Rovers side look less interested. Passing the ball out of the park, rarely finding another red shirt. And the attack? Route one. Long punt. Fruitless and, quite frankly, gutless. Route one was partly successful in the days of McCormack and Martin, but we had target men. Fearless. Strong. With aerial presence and the ability to put the ball in the back of the net. The midfield, including Fish, looked lost at sea. No shape; no sign of organisation. The four at the back? Bossed. Bullied. Made to look like a Sunday league team who’d enjoyed a heavy night in the public house the night before taking to the pitch. The attack? Absolutely non-existent. Not a trace of movement. Lacking pace. Woeful. I echo the comments made hitherto. We cannot expect to bring in a Manager with 20+ years of experience in the juniors and to succeed. The calibre of player he’s brought in won’t cut the mustard in League 2. It’s just as simple as that. Usually, the relegated team is favourite to come straight back up. On Saturday’s showing, there’s no doubt in my mind that we’ll be rooted to 10th spot all season and will go down with a whimper – perhaps spelling the end of our existence. Flushing 126 years of history down the pan. That would be heart-breaking and, for most of us, unimaginable. Sadly, it’s what we are faced with. Rovers teams, no matter how poorly resourced, have always showed a semblance of fight. A desire. Proud underdogs. Willing to fling themselves in front of the ball. Panache. This collection, the class of 2018/2019, looked scared. Empty. Disinterested. At some points, they looked bored. Almost as if they’d rather be anywhere else than on that pitch. It is not good enough. Who to blame? Well, there’s no right or wrong answer. Five/six years of financial mismanagement. A revolving door in the boardroom. £10,000 donations (although commercially wise at the time). The appointment of Brogan, though, that lies with whoever interviewed him. If the club ends up going down (which at this stage seems highly possible) the BoD could be the last and, perhaps, the least ambitious one. It’s really not a pleasant business. We’ve enjoyed the days of wine and roses for the last few years (post 2010). It’s been great. A rollercoaster.
I hope (and I pray) that we can survive, and thrive, but I fear the reaper has us in his sights. The end of our time in senior football? Difficult, but bearable. The end of the club, its existence, and that long, enduring history. Unthinkable. Unimaginable. But, at this moment in time, a possibility.
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Post by paulrovers on Aug 6, 2018 13:51:36 GMT
I left uncharacteristically early on Saturday. Just before the fourth goal hit the back of the net. The awful sense of foreboding I felt prior to kick-off manifested itself in the most horrendous fashion. We look out of our depth from back to front. I’ve never, ever seen a Rovers side look less interested. Passing the ball out of the park, rarely finding another red shirt. And the attack? Route one. Long punt. Fruitless and, quite frankly, gutless. Route one was partly successful in the days of McCormack and Martin, but we had target men. Fearless. Strong. With aerial presence and the ability to put the ball in the back of the net. The midfield, including Fish, looked lost at sea. No shape; no sign of organisation. The four at the back? Bossed. Bullied. Made to look like a Sunday league team who’d enjoyed a heavy night in the public house the night before taking to the pitch. The attack? Absolutely non-existent. Not a trace of movement. Lacking pace. Woeful. I echo the comments made hitherto. We cannot expect to bring in a Manager with 20+ years of experience in the juniors and to succeed. The calibre of player he’s brought in won’t cut the mustard in League 2. It’s just as simple as that. Usually, the relegated team is favourite to come straight back up. On Saturday’s showing, there’s no doubt in my mind that we’ll be rooted to 10th spot all season and will go down with a whimper – perhaps spelling the end of our existence. Flushing 126 years of history down the pan. That would be heart-breaking and, for most of us, unimaginable. Sadly, it’s what we are faced with. Rovers teams, no matter how poorly resourced, have always showed a semblance of fight. A desire. Proud underdogs. Willing to fling themselves in front of the ball. Panache. This collection, the class of 2018/2019, looked scared. Empty. Disinterested. At some points, they looked bored. Almost as if they’d rather be anywhere else than on that pitch. It is not good enough. Who to blame? Well, there’s no right or wrong answer. Five/six years of financial mismanagement. A revolving door in the boardroom. £10,000 donations (although commercially wise at the time). The appointment of Brogan, though, that lies with whoever interviewed him. If the club ends up going down (which at this stage seems highly possible) the BoD could be the last and, perhaps, the least ambitious one. It’s really not a pleasant business. We’ve enjoyed the days of wine and roses for the last few years (post 2010). It’s been great. A rollercoaster. I hope (and I pray) that we can survive, and thrive, but I fear the reaper has us in his sights. The end of our time in senior football? Difficult, but bearable. The end of the club, its existence, and that long, enduring history. Unthinkable. Unimaginable. But, at this moment in time, a possibility. Pin this up in the dressing room. If the manager can’t get the players up for it then surely something like this can. Ask the players is this what you want the fans to think of you? Do you care what they think? If the answers from them aren’t to be what’s expected then let them go.
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Post by charlestheoptimist on Aug 6, 2018 15:35:51 GMT
Just watched the highlights ! on you tube - seems just as bad from the live show on Saturday - the cheeky back heeler from Blair Henderson was pure genius/ instinct. Note to the players watch and learn !
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Post by chris on Aug 7, 2018 13:40:27 GMT
He had ages to think about it 4 defenders at front post nobody at the back
Horrendous defending from a poor team
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