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Post by arfcdm on Sept 1, 2018 19:37:11 GMT
After another late capitulation I would personally be looking at other options now. Genuinely think this is one of the biggest decisions our BOD will make as the wrong one could have disastrous consequences with the lowland league looming.
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Post by Sharkey on Sept 1, 2018 19:41:07 GMT
im surprised hes still there
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 19:46:03 GMT
If he goes, who in there right mind is going to take the job?
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Post by Sharkey on Sept 1, 2018 19:48:47 GMT
Its not his fault?? whos is it then? lol granted hes not got sole blame but he lives and dies by teams results,,,hes got to do the right thing and go now
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 20:08:44 GMT
Aye who indeed. Oh I forgot it's our fault isn't it mr brogan as we don't have any guts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 20:08:49 GMT
You will always get the nothing to lose candidates, in fact brogan is one, it's not a slant on him, but at his age, with his previous level of management experience, he has nothing to lose.
Remember many football individuals involved did not have a good experience at the club and this is discussed at many levels of the game.
Also consider most managers want thier own players, taking on another managers players will be a real challenge for some candidates, especially in these circumstances.
Will the list of candidates be any different and will the board decision be any better.
If we are rolling the dice, it may be our last throw, if it doesn't work.
Boards at a high level get this wrong, so I'm resigned to the fact the club is where it is due to a set of badly managed circumstances, not all to do with money.
Brian Kerr and Darren Young left the club and are currently successful, while we might not like to admit it, theres something wrong at the club, but while we choose to ignore it, we are jointly responsible for our current situation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 20:09:03 GMT
5 league games.
Has used 24 different players, 23 of whom have started 1 or more matches. 6 have started 3, 4 have started 4 and there has been only 4 ever present. Lack of consistent lineup is killing the team and the manager. Only 6 who started against Q.P. started today against Berwick, albeit 1 suspension forced a change. Defence all over the place for the last half hour, when we should have tried to tighten things up at 3-2 we were still going forward gung ho. Unbelievable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 20:36:07 GMT
any manager with the slightest bit of experience will do, even if its John Hughes Kenny Shiels or someone who has been out the game for a while, they will know there is no pressure and if he saves us its his chance to be a hero and get back into the game. That's the pitch the chairman should be making to new candidates
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Post by Sharkey on Sept 1, 2018 20:40:14 GMT
Never mind a bloody poll,its obvious this board aint going to act,,,lets sent mr brogan a message that he cant ignore
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Post by d7 on Sept 1, 2018 20:47:56 GMT
Spot on bingo. If Brogan goes tomorrow, preferably tonight, there will be no shortage of candidates to take his place. All with an ego the size of Africa and almost (!) as much talent. That's fitba.
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Post by d7 on Sept 1, 2018 20:57:59 GMT
Aye who indeed. Oh I forgot it's our fault isn't it mr brogan as we don't have any guts. Agreed jimbo. I can almost hear John's sacking/mutually consenting/citing of work commitments so can't train on a Tuesday/a big boy did it and ran away, interview now. It's everyone's fault but his. The Board didn't back him, the fans turned against him, the internet bampots had it in for him......... yawn! It's a f*ckin cert!! Fact is - you signed these guys John on the dream ticket. It's your responsibility and this is happening on your watch. Time is up. Well and truly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 9:01:41 GMT
5 league games. Has used 24 different players, 23 of whom have started 1 or more matches. 6 have started 3, 4 have started 4 and there has been only 4 ever present. Lack of consistent lineup is killing the team and the manager. Only 6 who started against Q.P. started today against Berwick, albeit 1 suspension forced a change. Defence all over the place for the last half hour, when we should have tried to tighten things up at 3-2 we were still going forward gung ho. Unbelievable. Great analysis. He is just mirroring the board's behaviour though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 10:51:03 GMT
The crisis deepens.
Shambolic home display. A couple of decent individual performances, but kamikaze defending and questionable goalkeeping put us to the sword.
To concede 5 goals at home is simply not acceptable. Berwick are expected to be battling at the bottom and, based on today, will finish above us. Barring a miracle, it’s now looking very likely we’ll be plying our trade in the Lowland League next season.
The consequences of this? Unthinkable. The manager has to go. The Chairman has to step down. Don’t believe the absolute guff that we’re somehow ‘untouchable’ - I’m sure lots of managers with SPFL experience would jump at the chance to take the reins and turn things around.
Time is up, John. Time is up, Ronnie. The clock is ticking. The future of our club could be decided in the coming weeks and, to be frank, it’s looking rather bleak.
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Post by sam on Sept 2, 2018 15:00:15 GMT
Took a while, I’ve stopped myself a few times but unfortunately I just can’t take anymore. Reading thro the posts as far as I can make out. The manager has to go, the chairman has to go, the rest of the board have to go so god help the wee wummin in the pie shop if the oven isn’t up to temperature
I was hoping that things would turn round regards results, unfortunately that’s not happened and as I don’t get to see the team as regular as I like I have to go on the thoughts of you guys who post on here. Now every club will have some supporter who, regardless of whose in the team or result will slag them off telling everyone that he knows better, these guys should be dismissed without thought however when guys I know who watch the Rovers regularly and have been around a long time are saying it’s bad I tend to think oh shit!!
The appointment of JB was a bit of a gamble, certainly took me by surprise although to be fair I was delighted to see one of my favourite players taking over. However i did get a big uneasy when I saw the standard of player we were bringing in, I must make clear I didn’t think they couldn’t play football I was concerned that they were of an age that lacked experience. No one who had plyed their trade in the depths of this division, no one who knew how hard you had to battle to get every single point and that’s become apparent The manager has to take responsibility for that as he brought them in so he either has to show that he can make them a better team by drilling them at training on how to defend and work hard as a team, these basics must show themselves in a game but if that ain’t happening then someone needs to come in and do that. I
I don’t get the bit where it’s all the Chairmans fault. Yes he and a group of directors made the managerial choice however at interview perhaps JB was the guy who did best. I have seen plenty of guys get jobs in my work who couldn’t wire a plug but they could talk you though the elect regs book. The chairman and board don’t pick the team but they must show support to the guy they appointed... up to a point and I’m sure, knowing some of them, that the next big decision will be weighing heavy round their neck On the point made that the Chairman must go, if so then who replaces him. I don’t have any knowledge of the inner workings of the Rovers boardroom but as far as I’m aware none of the folks who have the honour of being board members are multi millionaires, in fact, unless your a Rovers nut, who in their right mind would plough money into the club with the fan base that we have. Someone like the lad who took Gretna to the top league with his money maybe but eejits like him are very hard to find.
Whatever happened in the past years has gone, the money lavished on high wages to get us into league 1 and keep us there has gone, we are deep in the grubber so please stop raking over old coals of whose to blame as the ones who did left the building a while back and left us in the state we have now.
I apologise if I have tended to dribble on to much but the Rovers have been my team since the early 60s, they were my grandads and my fathers team and are the only club team I have ever supported and it pains me to see them in this perilous position. Don’t get me wrong over the years there have been plenty of donkeys who have played for us and we’ve been bottom of the league a few times in the past but given we might disappear into the depths if we don’t turn this round then maybe it’s time that change was made
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Post by d7 on Sept 2, 2018 16:39:39 GMT
Where I see it as the Chairman's fault is that he must have interviewed Brogan and listened to his sh1te that signing youths from Alloa who aren't ready and people from the lower reaches of junior football were just what we needed. It is neither rocket science nor brain surgery to realise that isn't how football works. I said on here weeks ago that if it was that easy everyone would be doing it. It's a daft notion and anyone who bought into it shouldn't be anywhere near a football team in L2.
And as if that wasn't bad enough, the appointment of a rookie - Kerr - last season who was allowed to spunk the club's money on his pals and other dross was equally as mental. What we needed was experience - and that's not being clever with the benefit of hindsight, that was being said at the time. Then of course, just to rub it in, Kerr was offered the gig again this year ffs!! I actually wish he'd taken it now compared to what we ended up with!!
So, taking all that into account, when is enough enough?
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