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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 12:40:28 GMT
I’m delighted that this topic has ignited such a passionate debate amongst our core support. I note, with great interest, how keen some are to dismiss realism with suspicion. There are a few facts that cannot be denied and should put this whole situation in to perspective: · We have concded 24 goals so far this competitive season. · We have scored 1 goal so far this competitive season. · John Brogan’s has signed sub-standard players from the doldrums of the Junior game. · The trio of loanees signed are meant to be an improvement on Brogan’s very own signings. · The Manager made comments at a meeting promising that his team would show strength and would be no pushovers. · The Board of Directors took the decision to appoint Brogan and, as such, the buck stops with them if things do not improve. · As far as we know, a number of more experienced candidates (with extensive league experience) were keen to take the reigns at the club.
Jordie.
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Post by stewmelrover on Aug 16, 2018 12:51:00 GMT
Who were the other keen candidates?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 13:33:37 GMT
As far as we know. Ian Murray’s name was certainly mentioned. I don’t believe, for a second, that Brogan was the sole candidate. A senior football club based in Central Scotland could provide the right person with a way back in to the game.
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Post by Rovergrant on Aug 16, 2018 13:38:34 GMT
Being a candidate....and taking the job after being told of the playing staff budget...are two different things entirely
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Post by stewmelrover on Aug 16, 2018 13:42:12 GMT
Did Ian Murray apply? Do we know this for certain? Who were the other keen and experienced people you mentioned?
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Post by paulrovers on Aug 16, 2018 14:10:31 GMT
Ian Murray (No1 choice) and 100% wanted the job. Jim Chapman also in for it.
I’m sure others can come in and explain why Murray didn’t get the job....
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Post by Rovergrant on Aug 16, 2018 14:28:36 GMT
I have watched on this message board, over the past few weeks, comments from various supporters about their concerns about the team and where the club might end up. For geographic and other reasons I only rarely get to games but I have supported the club all my life – first season ticket in 1960 – price ten shillings (50p) – hence I won`t pass comment on the players and team management save to say that John Brogan was one of my heroes in the 70s and for that I hope it works out for him. What I will address is the business side of Albion Rovers Football Club– it is not a `club` it is a business with shareholders and directors. Incidentally on another thread a poster said `sack the board` - only the shareholders can do that – and if they did then what ?There is little doubt (with the benefit of hindsight of course) that the club were poorly served by the previous two chairmen to the detriment of present incumbent. One blew away the benefits of that cup run while the other lumbered the club with loan debt to a sub prime lender at an eye watering rate of interest. They and other directors – four strangely all departed around the same time leaving four, Ronnie Boyd (who had originally joined the club board as Trust Representative), Eddie Hagerty, Ian Benton and Paul Reilly (who subsequently left at the end of 2017 to take up a post with Dumbarton FC). Mr Boyd as longest serving Director became chairman. From a business point of view it was good to see businessmen (in several instances ex footballers) coming in to help and advise an inexperienced Board of Directors – and subsequently a young manager in Brian Kerr. Of necessity budgets were cut at the start of last season but we still made a good start, Alan Trouten being outstanding. Then in November the cracks started to appear with David Douglas and David Calder departing (no reasons were ever given) and from the turn of the year it was all down hill. In early 2018 new faces were appointed to the BOD Lindsay Hamilton (one of the former advisors), Bill Shields, Craig Downs and Bill Hunter, all apparently in preparation for Ronnie Boyd stepping down at the end of the season, with Hamilton being the Chairman heir apparent. Of course relegation has had a massive impact upon club income, hence a further massive budget cut but for me it is of great concern that Lindsay Hamilton resigned on the eve of becoming chairman and now in the past week Craig Downs goes. Why ? Ronnie Boyd has now said he will stay as chairman until October – then what ? It is notable that there has been no comment from the club regarding these departures. It should also be understood that Rovers like many small businesses are very much beholden to their Bank - Royal Bank of Scotland – for support – and in today`s environment there will be little sentiment or sympathy from RBS for a wee struggling football business. Quite how the bank views the revolving boardroom door one can only speculate, but it is usually a sign of a distressed business, particularly when experienced business men are seen to be leaving. As a business where do Rovers go from here ? I have no crystal ball but – and I know that I will attract massive criticism by saying this – it may be that ultimately the only way to re-finance the club will be to sell the ground – and that would be heartbreaking.
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Post by stewmelrover on Aug 16, 2018 14:32:47 GMT
Are you absolutely sure Ian Murray applied for and wanted the job? Has someone at the club said this?
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Post by stewmelrover on Aug 16, 2018 14:33:47 GMT
How was it made known that Ian Murray 100% wanted the job?
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Post by Rovergrant on Aug 16, 2018 14:41:32 GMT
How was it made known that Ian Murray 100% wanted the job? Pure speculation.
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Post by chris on Aug 16, 2018 15:22:55 GMT
How was it made known that Ian Murray 100% wanted the job? He was quoted in national newspapers saying he wanted it
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Post by stewmelrover on Aug 16, 2018 15:45:39 GMT
In which paper? I saw plenty of mention of his being available, but nothing on him wanting it.
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Post by chris on Aug 16, 2018 15:49:00 GMT
In which paper? I saw plenty of mention of his being available, but nothing on him wanting it. He wasn't available he is still under contract to Asker in Norway. I doubt the rovers would pay money for him. And if I leave my work I know I would need to give notice
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Post by paulrovers on Aug 16, 2018 15:52:34 GMT
In which paper? I saw plenty of mention of his being available, but nothing on him wanting it. I think the issue is there are too many people happy to tell what should be closed door information to anyone who will give them 10mins of their time. So a 10mins convo with someone who knows about the club and you can get plenty of information. It’s been like this for as long as I can remember. Before it was officially announced, how did people with nothing to do with ARFC know JB had the job?
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Post by chris on Aug 16, 2018 15:53:19 GMT
Mark Kerr was also wanting it as were martin Laughlin former EK manager and Stephen swift who had just left bsc glasgow (He's back at them now)
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