Dumbarton Predictions (1pm k-o Hogmanay)

[tonythejambo]

The criticism of the board is totally unjustified here . The club is run financially prudently.The club cannot spend what it can’t afford like before where the club nearly went bankrupt. I know for a fact how hard the board work and the amount of time/support they give the club which largely goes unrecognised . I personally would say fans have to be realistic where the club is at and I totally appreciate the core fans we have but unfortunately there isn’t a big enough fan base where we can generate the income to provide the manager with funds like we did under Darren young. Also looking at potential investors into the club . It would very difficult for someone to invest into the club when a large portion of the shares belong are classified as dead as reported at last AGM. On the manager I don’t know who could do a better job who’s got the experience

[rovers16arfc]

Jan 1, 2023 16:39:14 GMT tonythejambo said:

The criticism of the board is totally unjustified here . The club is run financially prudently.The club cannot spend what it can’t afford like before where the club nearly went bankrupt. I know for a fact how hard the board work and the amount of time/support they give the club which largely goes unrecognised . I personally would say fans have to be realistic where the club is at and I totally appreciate the core fans we have but unfortunately there isn’t a big enough fan base where we can generate the income to provide the manager with funds like we did under Darren young. Also looking at potential investors into the club . It would very difficult for someone to invest into the club when a large portion of the shares belong are classified as dead as reported at last AGM. On the manager I don’t know who could do a better job who’s got the experience

I completely agree with everything you have said we have people commenting being negative blasting the board and management team when they have no clue what is actually going in in the background, no manager with the experience Brian reid has would come with the budget the club has , the board are operating within its means , we have one of the lowest if not lowest budget in league football, I know factually majority of lowland league clubs have bigger budgets just need to look at championship and league 1 players dropping down to the lowland league then there the top teams in the West of Scotland Premier using Darvel as an example again factually they have attracted league 1 , championship and Premier league quality players.

This one is definitely a taboo among supporters but the way to increase the clubs funds and budget would be to install a 4g pitch which would make the club money being central in Coatbridge , it would also save the club quite a bit of money on training facilities and then you have the potential to make a lot of money hiring the park out daily with youth and amateur teams training on it and even playing 7 aside on it but here's when everyone moans and complains and be negative with the likes of but but but its not attractive playing on artificial surfaces etc its all about sustainability yes you need to relay every 10 year but that would pay for itself hiring it out and saving money from the club paying out to hire a full pitch 4 hours every week. There will also be people commenting on this saying but there's other facilities that people will use like st ambrose hs, dunbeth Park even st Andrews hs all these parks are below standard I know this first hand being on the parks playing and training for numerous years and still currently play at St ambrose so having a new 4g Park in Central Coatbridge will be extremely popular and then talk about sustainability if theses parks weren't sustainable or money makers then someone enlighten me of why does majority of league 1 clubs have them 6 clubs in league 2 majority of all lowland league clubs have them and nearly all west of Scotland football clubs have them.

[Deleted]

No one is above criticism especially under an our current predicament. To suggest that we don't know what's happening in the club is somewhat patronising. We do but we also are looking for something on the pitch to give hope. There is little and while being financially prudent is laudable it has to be down with some creativity to have something on the pitch worth watching. That is sadly lacking. The manager is one dimensional and a result of a similar board. I am losing interest in going as there is little to get excited about and every game is predictable. I am not alone.

[rovers16arfc]

Jan 1, 2023 18:31:24 GMT jimbo42 said:

No one is above criticism especially under an our current predicament. To suggest that we don't know what's happening in the club is somewhat patronising. We do but we also are looking for something on the pitch to give hope. There is little and while being financially prudent is laudable it has to be down with some creativity to have something on the pitch worth watching. That is sadly lacking. The manager is one dimensional and a result of a similar board. I am losing interest in going as there is little to get excited about and every game is predictable. I am not alone.

If it was ypu incharge how would you for an example deal with having a very small playing squad and then deal with losing a defender to emigrating amaury testa leaving and then losing our captain Sean fagan due to injury , then max Wright liam fagan, Michael paton being injured then Lewis kidd not being 100% after coming back from injury for example yesterday the subs were more or less made up of players from the 20s who aren't quite just yet ready for league 1 football so quite literally just the 2 players fit , Scott Roberts and Barry Duncan who I do admit definitely deserves a run in the team

[Deleted]

I'll throw at back at you and ask what you would do. I imagine you would do something rather than nothing which is what has happened.

[rovers16arfc]

Jan 1, 2023 19:17:43 GMT jimbo42 said:

I'll throw at back at you and ask what you would do. I imagine you would do something rather than nothing which is what has happened.

Only difference I would do would be change of formation to a 3-5-2 and make use of wide players but they'd need to track back players wise not much you can actually change with the amount of injuries and even players giving there all who aren't 100% fit
And I'd even use it when Sean fagan is back too and put fagan in for fernie so my 11 would be:

Leighfield

Fernie sonker Graham


Reilly malcolm c Wilson Fleming E Wilson

Duncan leslie


Front 2 would change when we get a striker or strikers so that's what I'd do , now as I said what would you do then

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Lose the manager for starters. The jobs yours.

[Alan Mulgrew]

Jan 1, 2023 18:01:38 GMT rovers16arfc said:

Jan 1, 2023 16:39:14 GMT tonythejambo said:

The criticism of the board is totally unjustified here . The club is run financially prudently.The club cannot spend what it can’t afford like before where the club nearly went bankrupt. I know for a fact how hard the board work and the amount of time/support they give the club which largely goes unrecognised . I personally would say fans have to be realistic where the club is at and I totally appreciate the core fans we have but unfortunately there isn’t a big enough fan base where we can generate the income to provide the manager with funds like we did under Darren young. Also looking at potential investors into the club . It would very difficult for someone to invest into the club when a large portion of the shares belong are classified as dead as reported at last AGM. On the manager I don’t know who could do a better job who’s got the experience

I completely agree with everything you have said we have people commenting being negative blasting the board and management team when they have no clue what is actually going in in the background, no manager with the experience Brian reid has would come with the budget the club has , the board are operating within its means , we have one of the lowest if not lowest budget in league football, I know factually majority of lowland league clubs have bigger budgets just need to look at championship and league 1 players dropping down to the lowland league then there the top teams in the West of Scotland Premier using Darvel as an example again factually they have attracted league 1 , championship and Premier league quality players.

This one is definitely a taboo among supporters but the way to increase the clubs funds and budget would be to install a 4g pitch which would make the club money being central in Coatbridge , it would also save the club quite a bit of money on training facilities and then you have the potential to make a lot of money hiring the park out daily with youth and amateur teams training on it and even playing 7 aside on it but here's when everyone moans and complains and be negative with the likes of but but but its not attractive playing on artificial surfaces etc its all about sustainability yes you need to relay every 10 year but that would pay for itself hiring it out and saving money from the club paying out to hire a full pitch 4 hours every week. There will also be people commenting on this saying but there's other facilities that people will use like st ambrose hs, dunbeth Park even st Andrews hs all these parks are below standard I know this first hand being on the parks playing and training for numerous years and still currently play at St ambrose so having a new 4g Park in Central Coatbridge will be extremely popular and then talk about sustainability if theses parks weren't sustainable or money makers then someone enlighten me of why does majority of league 1 clubs have them 6 clubs in league 2 majority of all lowland league clubs have them and nearly all west of Scotland football clubs have them.

The board should be out looking for outside investors or looking for someone to take over the club the threat of relegation is down to them and them alone - certian members such as Eddie tries his best but two members in particular seem to have their head in the sand and the non existent chairman who no one has heard from this season as I said before if we go down all members of the board bar Eddie should be standing down

[rovers16arfc]

Getting rid of the manager and get who to replace him , who genuinely would you bring in with experience to replace him with though and saying someone competent isn't a proper answer, also need to take into consideration paying up the rest of his contract and then his backroom staff too and then needing to pay more for a replacement and then there staff too so where does this money come from and then where does the money come from to get players in if any available has just been lost paying up a contract and getting replacement so you and others saying sack the manager isn't a solution if you think it is let me hear your argument

[tonythejambo]

Jan 1, 2023 20:12:23 GMT Alan Mulgrew said:

Jan 1, 2023 18:01:38 GMT rovers16arfc said:

I completely agree with everything you have said we have people commenting being negative blasting the board and management team when they have no clue what is actually going in in the background, no manager with the experience Brian reid has would come with the budget the club has , the board are operating within its means , we have one of the lowest if not lowest budget in league football, I know factually majority of lowland league clubs have bigger budgets just need to look at championship and league 1 players dropping down to the lowland league then there the top teams in the West of Scotland Premier using Darvel as an example again factually they have attracted league 1 , championship and Premier league quality players.

This one is definitely a taboo among supporters but the way to increase the clubs funds and budget would be to install a 4g pitch which would make the club money being central in Coatbridge , it would also save the club quite a bit of money on training facilities and then you have the potential to make a lot of money hiring the park out daily with youth and amateur teams training on it and even playing 7 aside on it but here's when everyone moans and complains and be negative with the likes of but but but its not attractive playing on artificial surfaces etc its all about sustainability yes you need to relay every 10 year but that would pay for itself hiring it out and saving money from the club paying out to hire a full pitch 4 hours every week. There will also be people commenting on this saying but there's other facilities that people will use like st ambrose hs, dunbeth Park even st Andrews hs all these parks are below standard I know this first hand being on the parks playing and training for numerous years and still currently play at St ambrose so having a new 4g Park in Central Coatbridge will be extremely popular and then talk about sustainability if theses parks weren't sustainable or money makers then someone enlighten me of why does majority of league 1 clubs have them 6 clubs in league 2 majority of all lowland league clubs have them and nearly all west of Scotland football clubs have them.

The board should be out looking for outside investors or looking for someone to take over the club the threat of relegation is down to them and them alone - certian members such as Eddie tries his best but two members in particular seem to have their head in the sand and the non existent chairman who no one has heard from this season as I said before if we go down all members of the board bar Eddie should be standing down

One of the issue you would have with changing the board is no one is waiting in the wings and the chairman works 24/7 for the club which not many see. I know for a fact how hard he works and the other directors you mentioned do a lot of the work unseen by supporters . There is a lot behind the seens that goes on behind the scenes. The current custodians and previous chairman Ronnie Boyd who was the chairman before Eddie and Ian had to clear one heck of a mess that they inherited. Eddie is a great servant to the club may I add

[Deleted]

He should be resigning. As for as a replacement. That's what the board are for. It's not up to me to have a list of available managers. Same drivel you get from the head in the sand brigade every time you criticise. As for the board. They picked the last 3 managers from a short list. Brogan was a disaster. Harper was passable but wanted some reward for keeping us up. They replaced him with Reid who is a one dimensional and going to get us relegated. I wouldn't trust them to pick the next one. The club is a car crash of their making.

[rovers16arfc]

What's the opinions on a 4g Park at cliftonhill, arguments for and against

[rovers16arfc]

Jan 1, 2023 20:41:00 GMT jimbo42 said:

He should be resigning. As for as a replacement. That's what the board are for. It's not up to me to have a list of available managers. Same drivel you get from the head in the sand brigade every time you criticise. As for the board. They picked the last 3 managers from a short list. Brogan was a disaster. Harper was passable but wanted some reward for keeping us up. They replaced him with Reid who is a one dimensional and going to get us relegated. I wouldn't trust them to pick the next one. The club is a car crash of their making.

I think its you with your head in the sand personally though, the board can only get a manager they can afford in you need to be realistic it's like you want a pep guardiola or a sir Alex ferguson as a manager that's never going to happen all you ever do and what I've seen on this is criticise and be negative, you keep saying get a competent manager, a better manager will cost a lot more than the club can afford and then your criticising the board they are doing everything they can and working within there means and as I've said answer me this were does the money come from that has to be given to pay up brian reid and his staffs contract and what's left to get a new manager in. OHH WAIT I know magic notes will appear from thin air

[arfc]

Jan 1, 2023 20:44:33 GMT rovers16arfc said:

What's the opinions on a 4g Park at cliftonhill, arguments for and against

Would cost something like £400k to do. The stadium is on its last legs - the pitch would probably outlast the ground after it's condemned. There's only two small changing rooms, no scope to add more so not much use for three 7s games at once (plus crossover). 

My biggest concern about relegation is how long can we survive without the SFL money? We wouldn't be able to afford to keep Cliftonhill going so we'd be homeless. Nowhere else really in Coatbridge to use even to rent. The board has an incredibly difficult job balancing the books while trying to keep the stadium open and put a team together. As has been mentioned, players will earn more playing almost anywhere else so it makes it near impossible for the manager to sign players better than what we have. We are desperately needing a striker but that's been clear from the first game of the season, there's no way the club hasn't been trying. 

Bonnyrigg game is crucial. They have been poor when we've played them before, their team lacks talent and fitness so I think they are our only hope now to avoid bottom place. If we lose next week then I think the only shred of hope we can bring in is a new manager who can hopefully use his own contacts to bring some fresh faces to the team.

[Deleted]

Jan 1, 2023 20:58:26 GMT rovers16arfc said:

Jan 1, 2023 20:41:00 GMT jimbo42 said:

He should be resigning. As for as a replacement. That's what the board are for. It's not up to me to have a list of available managers. Same drivel you get from the head in the sand brigade every time you criticise. As for the board. They picked the last 3 managers from a short list. Brogan was a disaster. Harper was passable but wanted some reward for keeping us up. They replaced him with Reid who is a one dimensional and going to get us relegated. I wouldn't trust them to pick the next one. The club is a car crash of their making.

I think its you with your head in the sand personally though, the board can only get a manager they can afford in you need to be realistic it's like you want a pep guardiola or a sir Alex ferguson as a manager that's never going to happen all you ever do and what I've seen on this is criticise and be negative, you keep saying get a competent manager, a better manager will cost a lot more than the club can afford and then your criticising the board they are doing everything they can and working within there means and as I've said answer me this were does the money come from that has to be given to pay up brian reid and his staffs contract and what's left to get a new manager in. OHH WAIT I know magic notes will appear from thin air

Says the guy who wants the club to buy a Megabucks plastic pitch. I'll leave to your delusions. Last year I quit the message board because of people like you who know everything and hammer everyone who doesn't agree with them. Well this time it's permanent. Find someone else to argue with.

Farewell

Jimbo42