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Post by rovers16arfc on Jan 2, 2023 14:56:46 GMT
Clydebank/yoker Caley braves Petershill Bo'ness Gala fairydean East Kilbride Gretna 2008 Rossvale Glasgow United Benburb Gartcairn Renfrew Carluke Port Glasgow Easterhouse academy Glenvale fc Harmony row Kilsyth athletic How can teams like this which I have stated afford artificial surfaces then I wonder enlighten me with a good answer  Clubs who have a far lower budget than what we do may I add so again if they can get funding why can't we or are we too scared for change and upgrades |
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Post by Rovergrant on Jan 2, 2023 15:03:14 GMT
Where is 'New Rover' when we need him? Help us!! We would not be in this situation if `New Rover` and others with football AND extensive business experience had not been driven away...`not `true` Rovers people they were described as, at the time . You and others have got what you wished for. A lot of sense being talked by new posters on this MB - Alan Mulgrew and Rovers16arfc - they perhaps dont know the history of why we are where we are....finances ruined by that iniquitous Shawbrook Loan. Yes it got paid off - but at what cost to the Club`s financial future, Best wishes for New Year, David |
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Post by bucky on Jan 2, 2023 15:12:44 GMT
4g or 5g has been looked at before including grant funding and the hitch was the club has to match the grant monies.i.e. It’s a 50% grant. Plus the pitch has to be relaid after 7-8 years. Personally I think the club has missed the boat on this as there are facilities at St Ambrose, St Andrews School, rawyards and Airdrie stadium. So rawyards and airdrie stadium is in airdrie there are none of quality and have you actually been at St Andrews school pitch lately which is dangerous and then st ambrose when was the last time you were at then , st ambrose Park is barely fit for purpose there are holes in nets , goalposts bent surface is ruined with chunks and holes on the parks you can't even see the lines and floodlights are out which have been complained about for months , your definitely blind if you think it wouldn't be popular and used every single day and its actually every 10 to 12 years parks need relayed but if you can think of another way to bring in a suit income please be my guest and make a suggestion rather than slating a proven means to bring in money also if it wasn't feesable where did all the clubs in the lower leagues and junior football get there funding from to put down artificial surfaces enlighten me if they can do it why can't we I haven’t slated the idea. I think it’s a good idea for extra income although not a fan of 4g for senior football myself. It all comes back to one thing you need the initial capital to get it off the ground. It’s you (sorry I don’t know your real name) who has slated the pitches at St Ambrose/St Andrews which check notes ….. are artificial surfaces. It looks like you’re using this issue to attack the current Board of Directors which is your right. On ye go , fire in… Buchanan Smith |
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Post by stewmelrover on Jan 2, 2023 15:15:17 GMT
Bonnyrigg 0, Albion Rovers 2
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Post by tommysermanni on Jan 2, 2023 15:31:38 GMT
It's an interesting topic and one that can be emotive. We all want what is best for Rovers but one thing is for certain.
If we think we can survive on the income generated by what comes through the turnstiles every 2nd week then we are wrong.
The upkeep of the ground will soon become a millstone around our necks and we will wither and die.
I realise this may have been looked at in previous years but has anything changed since then ?
I can't see many of the clubs currently using 4G being much better off than us financially but they found a way to make it work.
Doing nothing is not an option. Other clubs have done it and so can we.
I also think playing football or training at Cliftonhill would be attractive for many teams.
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Post by rovers16arfc on Jan 2, 2023 15:38:53 GMT
So rawyards and airdrie stadium is in airdrie there are none of quality and have you actually been at St Andrews school pitch lately which is dangerous and then st ambrose when was the last time you were at then , st ambrose Park is barely fit for purpose there are holes in nets , goalposts bent surface is ruined with chunks and holes on the parks you can't even see the lines and floodlights are out which have been complained about for months , your definitely blind if you think it wouldn't be popular and used every single day and its actually every 10 to 12 years parks need relayed but if you can think of another way to bring in a suit income please be my guest and make a suggestion rather than slating a proven means to bring in money also if it wasn't feesable where did all the clubs in the lower leagues and junior football get there funding from to put down artificial surfaces enlighten me if they can do it why can't we I haven’t slated the idea. I think it’s a good idea for extra income although not a fan of 4g for senior football myself. It all comes back to one thing you need the initial capital to get it off the ground. It’s you (sorry I don’t know your real name) who has slated the pitches at St Ambrose/St Andrews which check notes ….. are artificial surfaces. It looks like you’re using this issue to attack the current Board of Directors which is your right. On ye go , fire in… Buchanan Smith I'm not slating the board I know how difficult a job they have and how much they actually do behind the scenes it's anytime someone mentions an idea and ways to suggest bringing in money it's always a no you can't do this or that or some saying it'll never work etc it's never positive Why can't we all get behind and find ways of trying to bring in a good sustainable income , and atleast im trying to suggest things and being shot down straight away does the saying not go "If at first you dont succeed Try and Try again" and too right I'm slating st ambrose high and St Andrews High school pitches and yes they are artificial and I slate them reason being they have been left to go to ruin with all the wee fannies of the day who are on the parks who shouldn't be who haven't even booked parks destroying them even setting fire to them on Friday and Saturday nights |
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Post by Calum Moore on Jan 2, 2023 15:39:30 GMT
It's an interesting topic and one that can be emotive. We all want what is best for Rovers but one thing is for certain. If we think we can survive on the income generated by what comes through the turnstiles every 2nd week then we are wrong. The upkeep of the ground will soon become a millstone around our necks and we will wither and die. I realise this may have been looked at in previous years but has anything changed since then ? I can't see many of the clubs currently using 4G being much better off than us financially but they found a way to make it work. Doing nothing is not an option. Other clubs have done it and so can we. I also think playing football or training at Cliftonhill would be attractive for many teams. I always wanted to use Cliftonhill as a set for my college graded project (a Ted lesson Meets the office type show) but I never thought the club would be interested in that |
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Post by Alan Mulgrew on Jan 2, 2023 15:49:38 GMT
It's an interesting topic and one that can be emotive. We all want what is best for Rovers but one thing is for certain. If we think we can survive on the income generated by what comes through the turnstiles every 2nd week then we are wrong. The upkeep of the ground will soon become a millstone around our necks and we will wither and die. I realise this may have been looked at in previous years but has anything changed since then ? I can't see many of the clubs currently using 4G being much better off than us financially but they found a way to make it work. Doing nothing is not an option. Other clubs have done it and so can we. I also think playing football or training at Cliftonhill would be attractive for many teams. I always wanted to use Cliftonhill as a set for my college graded project (a Ted lesson Meets the office type show) but I never thought the club would be interested in that Stuff like that could elevate the club’s profile especially as the bigger profile the club has online the more money through the gates but it seems the club’s social media isn’t very good. I seen on the message board a few weeks back you approached the club with a proposal and it was rejected out of hand which is typical of this board wanting to keep the club in the 1800s and not attempting to progress the club forwards |
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Post by Rovergrant on Jan 2, 2023 15:50:51 GMT
Alan check your PM`s
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Post by liveinhope on Jan 2, 2023 16:18:26 GMT
Interesting though it is, it's an argument for another day. We have to in the coming months get things sorted ON THE PITCH. Which means getting points, saying in the SFL and consolidating our position. I really believe this group of players are good enough. I believe the club is doing all they can and with the lift we get of staying in this league we could move forward. I still believe we need change but if it isn't to happen now then let's get behind the lads and urge them on to get points on the board. Then there will be plenty of time to debate the way forward.
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Post by chris on Jan 2, 2023 18:39:17 GMT
It was looked at and as I have said the work required even before a pitch was laid made it unviable and beyond reasonable foe cost
A nice idea, proven to be unaffordable,
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Post by rovers16arfc on Jan 2, 2023 19:10:24 GMT
It was looked at and as I have said the work required even before a pitch was laid made it unviable and beyond reasonable foe cost A nice idea, proven to be unaffordable, How do small clubs like Kilsyth athletic and Bo'ness afford to get it an artificial park layed then 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Alan Mulgrew on Jan 2, 2023 20:46:55 GMT
Hopefully the new investors in that other thread are legit and they may fund a 5g pitch
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Post by chris on Jan 2, 2023 21:04:37 GMT
It was looked at and as I have said the work required even before a pitch was laid made it unviable and beyond reasonable foe cost A nice idea, proven to be unaffordable, How do small clubs like Kilsyth athletic and Bo'ness afford to get it an artificial park layed then 🤷♂️ Because they don't play at Cliftonhill, where they would have had to do extensive support work in order to be able to do it |
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Post by teekasule on Jan 3, 2023 15:23:21 GMT
What's the opinions on a 4g Park at cliftonhill, arguments for and against The club looked at it before and the cost of groundwork required in order to lay a plastic park made it unviable, along with the other ground requirements in order to make money from it trebled and quadrupled the price, Unfortunately as much as I agree it would help, it's just beyond practical at the moment Chris is correct, paying for a new entrance at the Airdrie end was the massive stumbling block which involved moving kerbs, adding drains, adding in electrics for new changing rooms. This was hundreds of thousands of ££££ that the 'grant' did not cover. No disabled access, no changing rooms for girls = No grant. Pretty sure all the other clubs mentioned wouldn't have had this financial burden before a spade was lifted. |
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